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Old 07-04-2009, 06:50 PM   #61
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I was wondering if a thread about this would be up, and surprise, surprise there is one.

The speculating reminds me of all the Sarah haters who came in agreeing with the Daily Kos that Sarah's baby was her daughters, spewing and repeating all kinds of untruthful and unsubstaniating hateful rumours-and never apologizing for them.

It's too bad many do not learn from their past mistakes.

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Hey kettle...

How do you defend this move? If she were to run for pres, how do you defend her being a quitter?
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:39 PM   #62
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Wow.
I think that was about the time you stated The Daily Kos had as much or more credibility than Fox News, but I could be mistaken and it was somebody else.

Regardless of whoever it was, at that point, I knew the discussion of Sarah Palin, and politics in general was futile in FYM.

This is why I rarely post here.




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I think that was about the time you stated The Daily Kos had as much or more credibility than Fox News, but I could be mistaken and it was somebody else.
You are mistaken.
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You are mistaken.
Correct, you stated The Daily Kos had more credibility than a certain YouTube.Com video clip.

Context is always important.

The YouTube.Com clip had to do with posting of Barrack's original live birth certificate. A "duplicate birth certificate" of Barrack Obama's was posted instead by the Daily Kos, instead of producing his "live birth certificate" which Obama could have done, because the hospital has it. All hospitals are required to keep them on record. If he wanted to, Barrack could but have obtained that copy of his live birth certificate and posted it- but has chosen not to for whatever reason.

The Daily Kos represented the "dupe" as authentic proof when it wasn't (it's a copy only- different in details from live birth certificates)-and that was the point I was trying to make at the time. Many erroneosly salivated as this being "authentic proof" thanks to the Daily Kos when it fact it wasn't. It was posted to pacify the masses, people gobbled it up here as "proof". Obama has never been compelled to post his live birth certificate legally-and hasn't volunteered it as either, for what ever reason, and one can draw their own conclusions about that.

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Here's the thing, Diamond:

The whole thing is complete bullshit pulled out of thin air by desperate conservatives to try to distract from real issues. If this same thing was happening, but was with John McCain, you would have said it was "complete bullshit made up by liberals sweating now that Palin has been nominated" or something like that. And you won't admit it when you reply to this post, but that's the truth, and most reasonable people on FYM would agree with what I'm saying.

Pretty much every conservative who has posted in this thread so far has the blinders on completely. The world thinks Obama's a moron? C'mon, 2816, you're smarter than that. That's total bullshit and you know it. You won't admit it, but you know it.
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Here's the thing, Diamond:

The whole thing is complete bullshit pulled out of thin air by desperate conservatives to try to distract from real issues. If this same thing was happening, but was with John McCain, you would have said it was "complete bullshit made up by liberals sweating now that Palin has been nominated" or something like that. And you won't admit it when you reply to this post, but that's the truth, and most reasonable people on FYM would agree with what I'm saying.

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Youre wrong in both areas re McCain and Obama.

It was tried on McCain, but that McCain was born in Panama and his dad was stationed there at the time it was legal.

The 2nd issue about Obama's birth certificate was filed by a Democrat, a Hillary supporter, sorry no dice.

Go back to your drawing board.

Perhaps the MSM is in the tank for Obama, backroom deals have been made insuring that MSM would never bring it up and this is why Obama has never released his "original live birth certificate".


Think about that for a bit.

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Regardless of whoever it was, at that point, I knew the discussion of Sarah Palin, and politics in general was futile in FYM.

This is why I rarely post here.
A lot of regulars, liberals and conservatives alike, either dropped off drastically in their participation or just stopped posting altogether during the election. Probably because an awful lot of the "discussion"--from both sides--consisted of inane character aspersions, with little in the way of substantive debates about actual policy agendas. And at the same time, little apparent interest in discussing anything besides the American election. All of which is unsurprising, as it's just a microcosm of how American society in general behaves during elections.

In this case, "all the haters" of your imagination in fact consisted of one individual, who at any rate never asserted said rumors were fact and also cited other sources denying them. An argument did ensue at that point about the ethics of even posting such speculations, but not about whether they were true, since no one was asserting they were.

We can all continue to hold grudges against specific posters for hyperpartisan behavior during that time, or we can chalk it up to the usual overwrought election-season emotionality that we see and hear (including in ourselves) offline during that time as well, and move on.


Back to the thread topic, please.
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so um Palin was laughed at throughout the world. I mean no offense to her supporters, but in what I have seen from her, she may be dumber than Bush (I know, I didnt think it was possible!)

Palin/Gingrich '13 ! or... Palin/ Limbaugh, Palin/ Cheney, Palin/ Beck... Wouldnt be surprised.

and actually the world loves Obama! I was just in Italy and I say over 20 different italians wearing Obama shirts.
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The states who have given America trouble in the past, continue to give us trouble.
A distinction needs to be made between governments and their respective population's popular opinion. Are there government's around the world who dislike, even hate Obama and everything he represents? No doubt. But much of the popular opinion of citizens in many of these countries around the globe is thus far favourable towards Obama. This makes it more difficult for governments to foment discontent and unite the country in their distaste and distrust towards 'The Great Satan'. Say what you will, but Bush was a lightening rod for critcism around the world and this, in turn, made it much easier to hate America.
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Palin = 2nd term for President Obama
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Palin = 2nd term for President Obama
He would barely have to campaign.

Wait - can you imagine an Obama/Palin debate?
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I'm inclined to doubt that she's actually decided yet whether to run in 2012.
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He would barely have to campaign.

Wait - can you imagine an Obama/Palin debate?
Anyone vs. Obama would be funny. Obama knows more about everything than almost every other person. and not just because he is president and gets secret intelligence, but because he is probably one of the most educated and smartest people I have ever met.

Rush Limbaugh would never be able to debate Obama. In fact, one day I hope to witness a debate between Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Obama.
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Obama knows more about everything than almost every other person.
Erm, that's a bit of a stretch. No one can be all things to all people.
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