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Old 11-19-2009, 08:00 AM   #601
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And the paranoia.
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Maybe I missed it, but where was feminist-in-chief martha calling out a weekly newsmagazine for using such a blatantly sexist picture of Sarah Palin on their cover. Because I don't recall such a cover with Barack (lots of lens flares suggesting divinity however), Biden, McCain, Edwards, Mitt, Huckabee or Dennis Kucinich.
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Didn't Palin pose for this photo?

Let's not let the facts get in the way.
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Except it wasn't for Newsweek, but for Runner's World magazine, and Newsweek ran it.
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She should've pulled that zipper down a lil further to compete with her son-in-law or should I say the father of her grandchild! I'm all Republican but leaning way lib if she has even a shot. . .
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Except it wasn't for Newsweek, but for Runner's World magazine, and Newsweek ran it.
True, but they bought the photo legally from a third person source(apparently), so how is it sexist?
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Maybe I missed it, but where was feminist-in-chief martha calling out a weekly newsmagazine .
Because others in the thread did an adequate job of it.


It's a sexist cover.


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True, but they bought the photo legally from a third person source(apparently), so how is it sexist?
It's sexist as hell, BVS. Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing. You don't so anybody any good doing that.
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Maybe I missed it, but where was feminist-in-chief martha calling out a weekly newsmagazine for using such a blatantly sexist picture of Sarah Palin on their cover. Because I don't recall such a cover with Barack (lots of lens flares suggesting divinity however), Biden, McCain, Edwards, Mitt, Huckabee or Dennis Kucinich.


i think i said earlier that i think that, yes, the cover is sexist ... HOWEVER, as we all know, Palin quit without even finishing her first term.

so she really is just a celebrity, not an elected official. and she's promoting a book. so while i agree that it is sexist, i don't think that an Obama comparison is remotely accurate.
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I'm not entirely convinced that it is sexist.

She posed for the photo in the first place, I'm assuming she chose what to wear for the shoot, and approved of the flag draped next to her. That said, I have no idea what the initial terms of that photo were, who owned it, and what, if any, other uses it could have. Assuming that Newsweek got it and used it legitimately, then I'm inclined to think that having serious political aspirations at the time, she probably shouldn't have posed for it in the first place (or posed differently), but since she did, and since it's being used again, she's using this as an opportunity to cry victim, as is her wont, when it's a situation of her own making. I'd say the same thing of any male politician posing for a beefcake-type photo too, although depending on which male politician it was, I might enjoy the result more.

I'm not really firm on this stance though. If I saw a convincing argument as to why it's sexist, I might change my mind, but so far I haven't.
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this does get into a good point about Our Sarah.

it's kind of like when Britney Spears was playing the whole "Barely Legal" thing circa 1999-2001. she'd wear nothing on stage and then say that she wears nothing on stage because she gets really hot, and ew, how dare you suggest that she's being too sexy. shame on you, pervert. and then people rally around her to defend her -- you know, because she's a poor woman being attacked -- and then the cycle starts again only this time she dances with a snake wrapped around her.

it's pretty win-win for her, and it might serve her well in the 2012 primaries.

how's Mittens gonna attack her without her supporters storming his campaign headquarters with pitchforks?
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I'm not sure I give enough of a damn about her anymore to really care, but I do think there are still issues with women's looks in politics. It seems to matter so much that she's pretty or that Clinton isn't. And remember when Madeleine Albright was around? Or Janet Reno? Their looks were appropriate for jokes everywhere. As long as women's looks are important in politics, then there's a sexist double-standard.






And now watch some of the fellas shit themselves because I expressed an opinion they don't like. I'm such a man-hater.
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I'm not sure I give enough of a damn about her anymore to really care, but I do think there are still issues with women's looks in politics. It seems to matter so much that she's pretty or that Clinton isn't. And remember when Madeleine Albright was around? Or Janet Reno? Their looks were appropriate for jokes everywhere. As long as women's looks are important in politics, then there's a sexist double-standard.
I see what you mean. I think though that Clinton, Albright and Reno were/are respected and effective in their professions, regardless of what they look like, and I have to think that if Palin had been a more skilled politician, she would have been, too. While remarks were made about their physical appearance, did anyone really believe that those attributes had any impact on their abilities?

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As long as women's looks are important in politics, then there's a sexist double-standard.


and Our Sarah knows this, and works this.
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Btw, Irvine? I think it was you that mentioned earlier in the thread that you'd like to read the book without contributing money to Palin, and without the embarrassment of having to take it out of the library when it's available? There's a solution!

The blogger at Mudflats is doing us a great service by giving a page-by-page synopsis of the book. As a bonus, she's thrown in pithy comments here and there, and the odd graphic of flaming trousers when the situation merits. It's been done in several parts, and she hopes to be finished by the end of the weekend. The first part can be found here, and what's done so far on subsequent pages:

The Mudflats

Scroll to the bottom of the page for chapter 1. Although the next entry she makes, chapter 1 will probably be bumped to the previous page.
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