Sarah Palin resigns as Governor - Page 3 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-03-2009, 08:31 PM   #31
Blue Crack Distributor
 
VintagePunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a dry and waterless place
Posts: 55,732
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diemen View Post
Right. And the best way to comment on hypocrisy about Sara Palin was to essentially celebrate Michael Jackson's death in response to a Michael Jackson fan.

I see.
Dieman, don't you remember that time when MJ was a governor, and he quit halfway through his term? It's practically the same thing.


__________________

__________________
VintagePunk is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 08:36 PM   #32
ONE
love, blood, life
 
U2isthebest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vision over visibility....
Posts: 12,332
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Where did I make any judgments on Sarah Palin's character, which is essentially, what you (financeguy) are doing to Michael Jackson? This might shock you, but I'm an intelligent person. I pay attention to what's going on the world. Even though I disagree with her on everything and feel she lacks the qualifications for any major political office, I've payed attention to the things she's said or done for the simple fact that for a short time, it was necessary. She could have become the vice president of the United States. From the moment she opened her mouth last August, it was clear to me she was lacking the intellect necessary for the job she claimed she wanted. She made many foolish choices throughout the campaign that led to her ticket losing the election and her choices in recent months (i.e. the Letterman overreaction) have shown most people she's simply not cut out for politics on a national level. I didn't say she's a horrible, evil person, just that she's about as qualified to be president as the average, mostly uninformed American. Your comparisons make about as much sense as Limbaugh's assertion that President Obama was at fault for Sanford's affair.
__________________

__________________
U2isthebest is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 08:40 PM   #33
Resident Photo Buff
Forum Moderator
 
Diemen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Somewhere in middle America
Posts: 13,238
Local Time: 03:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U2isthebest View Post
Where did I make any judgments on Sarah Palin's character, which is essentially, what you (financeguy) are doing to Michael Jackson?
To be fair, saying that dumb moves are someone's forte doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement of their character.
__________________
Diemen is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 08:52 PM   #34
ONE
love, blood, life
 
financeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U2isthebest View Post
Where did I make any judgments on Sarah Palin's character, which is essentially, what you (financeguy) are doing to Michael Jackson? This might shock you, but I'm an intelligent person. I pay attention to what's going on the world. Even though I disagree with her on everything and feel she lacks the qualifications for any major political office, I've payed attention to the things she's said or done for the simple fact that for a short time, it was necessary. She could have become the vice president of the United States. From the moment she opened her mouth last August, it was clear to me she was lacking the intellect necessary for the job she claimed she wanted. She made many foolish choices throughout the campaign that led to her ticket losing the election and her choices in recent months (i.e. the Letterman overreaction) have shown most people she's simply not cut out for politics on a national level. I didn't say she's a horrible, evil person, just that she's about as qualified to be president as the average, mostly uninformed American. Your comparisons make about as much sense as Limbaugh's assertion that President Obama was at fault for Sanford's affair.
Look, I'm just just asking for a more balanced judgement as regards the life and times of Michael Jackson. I don't mean to offend anyone, so apologies if I did offend you.

Jacko touched us all in our special place, so it's important to remember how he touched us and all the young people. (I'm joking!!!)

His talent and music was brilliant, but having a conversation about Jackson while ignoring bad stuff he might have done makes about as much sense as having a debate about Sarah Palin but only permitting conservative views re Sarah Palin, is all I'm saying.
__________________
financeguy is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 09:06 PM   #35
Forum Moderator
 
yolland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,471
Local Time: 10:03 AM
Back to the thread topic...

I really have no idea what to make of this right now. But the way she framed her decision in her announcement seemed to me risky at best. Essentially, the message seemed to be, "I don't want to be just another lame duck governor milking state funds for unnecessary junkets around the country, or defense against spurious political criticisms, so I'm going to keep my eyes on the prize and do all of you a favor by resigning." That's quite an eyebrow-raiser, especially coming from a (presumed) Presidential hopeful who was still 17 months away from completing her very first term in a state-level office.

I don't think Sanford makes a good comparison here because his political future is shot whether he likes it or not, so for him, the only consideration is how he wants to go out.
__________________
yolland [at] interference.com


μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης
yolland is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 09:32 PM   #36
Blue Crack Distributor
 
VintagePunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a dry and waterless place
Posts: 55,732
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yolland View Post
Back to the thread topic...

I really have no idea what to make of this right now. But the way she framed her decision in her announcement seemed to me risky at best. Essentially, the message seemed to be, "I don't want to be just another lame duck governor milking state funds for unnecessary junkets around the country, or defense against spurious political criticisms, so I'm going to keep my eyes on the prize and do all of you a favor by resigning." That's quite an eyebrow-raiser, especially coming from a (presumed) Presidential hopeful who was still 17 months away from completing her very first term in a state-level office.
Exactly, and by that very reasoning, every governor who sees out their final term is doing their constituents a disservice, and that's simply not true.

By and large, most of the commentary I've seen today seems to fall on the side of this being a very bad decision, if it was done for political reasons, with a view to 2012. Even Republican pundits have said so. In light of that though, I've read over and over again (most recently in the article I posted in this thread) that she surrounds herself with unreliable advisors who continually give her damaging advice.
__________________
VintagePunk is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 09:40 PM   #37
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
ntalwar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,900
Local Time: 04:03 AM
There's a new Vanity Fair article on her that's not too flattering:

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

Quote:
A sampling:

— "One longtime McCain friend and frequent companion on the trail was heard to refer to Palin as 'Little Shop of Horrors.'"

— "Some top aides worried about her mental state: was it possible that she was experiencing postpartum depression?"

— "Several told me, independently of one another, that they had consulted the definition of 'narcissistic personality disorder' in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders — 'a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy' — and thought it fit her perfectly.
__________________
ntalwar is offline  
Old 07-03-2009, 10:40 PM   #38
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
purpleoscar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In right wing paranoia
Posts: 7,597
Local Time: 02:03 AM
She's also complaining about legal bills of $500,000. Yikes!

She mentions "helping outside government." That doesn't sound like a presidential nomination, unless she's "bat shit crazy."
__________________
purpleoscar is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:05 AM   #39
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London/Sydney
Posts: 6,608
Local Time: 10:03 AM
I sincerely hope she runs in 2012.
__________________
Earnie Shavers is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 05:55 AM   #40
Blue Crack Distributor
 
VintagePunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a dry and waterless place
Posts: 55,732
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by deep View Post
I would go with her statements on national TV that can and will be verified.

Or we could just go with gut feelings and our bias because she is yucky, and you know, she is like a slutty stewardess.
I came across this earlier:

Ethics complaints filed against Palin: Gov. Sarah Palin | adn.com

So, she was technically cleared in 15 of them, but there are still 3 pending. Some of the complaints do seem awfully nitpicky, but others do not. And of the 15 she was cleared of, in the one regarding travel expenses for her children, there was no wrongdoing found, but she had to repay $10,000 to the state for the expenses. In another one, the major "troopergate" scandal from last fall, if you remember, a committee was formed to look into allegations and to come to a decision. Then out of nowhere, Palin filed ethics charges against herself, so that the state personnel board (who are essentially her employees - Alaska, unlike other states, does not have an independent board to study ethics complaints. Every complaint that says it was cleared by the personnel board falls under this category) could investigate. The original committee did find that there was a breach of ethics, but - surprise - the state personnel board didn't.

The moral of all this? Always verify what comes out of her mouth, even those things that are "easily verifiable," because she has a proven penchant for twisting the truth.

I'd like to see more evidence before I even come close to believing this, but there are rumours out there from several sources that state that a criminal indictment against Palin is pending authorization, relating to the Palin house being built by the same contractors who built the sports complex in Wasilla while she was mayor. It'll be interesting to see if this happens or not. These same Alaskan bloggers seemed to be very reliable when reporting information last fall, scooping mainstream media several times. On the other hand, if she truly has left politics with no plans to run in 2012, I think it's one of the most self aware decisions she's ever made, and I'll give credit where credit is due.
__________________
VintagePunk is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 06:32 AM   #41
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
intedomine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,949
Local Time: 07:03 PM
Good Riddance. The rest of the world was laughing at America for having a state that would elect such a moron to the position of Governor.

And if she does run in 2012, the world will be happy because it will mean the Republicans won't be in power. Horrid woman with horrid "values".
__________________
intedomine is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 08:06 AM   #42
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
2861U2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: watching the Cubs
Posts: 4,253
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by intedomine View Post
Good Riddance. The rest of the world was laughing at America for having a state that would elect such a moron to the position of Governor.
Change the last word to President, and that is how the world currently feels about us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by intedomine View Post
And if she does run in 2012, the world will be happy because it will mean the Republicans won't be in power. Horrid woman with horrid "values".
Keep it up. I have no doubt that if she were to get the nomination she would beat Obama. The hardest part will be getting the nomination, but if she does, it's over. I'm convinced. And what are these "values" that are so "horrid?" And how is she "horrid?" Seems like you're being a bit unfair just because you disagree with her on issues...
__________________
2861U2 is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 08:08 AM   #43
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
Vincent Vega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Berlin
Posts: 6,615
Local Time: 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2861U2 View Post
Change the last word to President, and that is how the world currently feels about us.
You haven't left your country much, right?
__________________
Vincent Vega is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 08:22 AM   #44
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
intedomine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,949
Local Time: 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2861U2 View Post
Change the last word to President, and that is how the world currently feels about us.



Keep it up. I have no doubt that if she were to get the nomination she would beat Obama. The hardest part will be getting the nomination, but if she does, it's over. I'm convinced. And what are these "values" that are so "horrid?" And how is she "horrid?" Seems like you're being a bit unfair just because you disagree with her on issues...
She kills animals for fun. FAIL
__________________
intedomine is offline  
Old 07-04-2009, 08:24 AM   #45
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
2861U2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: watching the Cubs
Posts: 4,253
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by intedomine View Post
She kills animals for fun. FAIL
So I take it you believe anyone who hunts, Democrats included, should never be in any position of political power. Thanks for clearing that up.

__________________

__________________
2861U2 is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How Obama got elected....... boosterjuice Free Your Mind 200 12-01-2008 12:07 PM
2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread-Part 11 purpleoscar Free Your Mind Archive 1010 11-04-2008 06:27 PM
The Rumor / FactCheck Thread Dreadsox Free Your Mind 25 10-21-2008 09:49 PM
so...Mike Huckabee. Harry Vest Free Your Mind Archive 493 02-06-2008 10:01 AM
AdamPorn elizabeth PLEBA Archive 63 12-12-2001 02:21 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com