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Old 07-11-2009, 06:15 PM   #151
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Distraction from what? I think Palin does a pretty good job herself of creating enough entertainment for us...
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:18 PM   #152
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Distraction from what? I think Palin does a pretty good job herself of creating enough entertainment for us...
The more people they can use as a weapon against popular conservatives, the better.

Basic political mechanics.

BTW, read the [s]hitpieces by Parker and Noonan.

That is, if the left welcomes late converts.
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The more people they can use as a weapon against popular conservatives, the better.
I think the mouthpieces are doing a fine job on their own. We just have to sit back and watch... I think everytime Hannity, Rush, or Beck are exposed outside of their wack squad the better. Every time Palin speaks or acts I think she loses another follower, so from my standpoint this is great!!!



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BTW, read the [s]hitpieces by Parker and Noonan.

That is, if the left welcomes late converts.
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Some good lefty bile...

A Farewell to Harms - WSJ.com

Kathleen Parker : A League of Her Own - Townhall.com
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They're either working for Obama or they're perfect for the job.
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You sound bitter. Does it hurt more when the truth comes from your own side? What specifics did you have issue with?

I actually think this is a good thing. Maybe you need to hear it from your own side so that you can get a feel of why we don't like her. Some of you've been told by Rush and the like that we don't like her because we're scared she's a threat or that we're jealous, and you've bought it hook line and sinker. Well Kathleen didn't see her as a threat, nor was she jealous, she saw her for what she was bad for our country.
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I've found Ann Coulter and Bill Kristol's columns equally ridiculous.

They're touting her resignation as a stroke of genius.
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They're either working for Obama or they're perfect for the job.

...or, they genuinely feel that she's not a good candidate.

The Republican party is in trouble. The last thing they need is a folksy-talking, no-substance candidate. Frankly, it amazes me that every conservative can't see this, but I applaud the ones that can get past their partisanship and do see it.
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I've found Ann Coulter and Bill Kristol's columns equally ridiculous.
This is the case 100% of the time though...
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They're either working for Obama or they're perfect for the job.

Conservatism should be a broad church, I view it as positive that there is a lot more dissent among conservatives now than in the Bush years.

I like Palin, but I doubt whether she is up to the POTUS role - though granted, there is a lot of hypocrisy in liberals' claims that her executive experience is valueless while forgetting Clinton's gubernatorial experience was also earned in a small state.

Hmm, one thing Palin has in common with Clinton is rumours about financial misdealings.
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there is a lot of hypocrisy in liberals' claims that her executive experience is valueless while forgetting Clinton's gubernatorial experience was also earned in a small state.

You try way too hard to do this and fail every time... Their experience isn't even comparable, neither are the states.
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there is a lot of hypocrisy in liberals' claims that her executive experience is valueless while forgetting Clinton's gubernatorial experience was also earned in a small state.
Big difference between serving 5 (2 year) terms as governor of a mainland state, and not even being able to get through one term in a fairly remote, isolated state.
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From the Noonan article, this is worth quoting, I agree with all of it:

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"The media did her in." Her lack of any appropriate modesty did her in. Actually, it's arguable that membership in the self-esteem generation harmed her. For 30 years the self-esteem movement told the young they're perfect in every way. It's yielding something new in history: an entire generation with no proper sense of inadequacy.

"Turning to others means the media won!" No, it means they lose. What the mainstream media wants is not to kill her but to keep her story going forever. She hurts, as they say, the Republican brand, with her mess and her rhetorical jabberwocky and her careless causing of division. Really, she is the most careless sower of discord since George W. Bush, who fractured the party and the movement that made him. Why wouldn't the media want to keep that going?

Here's why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.

Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.

The era we face, that is soon upon us, will require a great deal from our leaders. They had better be sturdy. They will have to be gifted. There will be many who cannot, and should not, make the cut. Now is the time to look for those who can. And so the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party—a party that deserves to lead—would do.

It's not a time to be frivolous, or to feel the temptation of resentment, or the temptation of thinking next year will be more or less like last year, and the assumptions of our childhoods will more or less reign in our future. It won't be that way.

We are going to need the best.
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You try way too hard to do this and fail every time... Their experience isn't even comparable, neither are the states.
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Big difference between serving 5 terms as governor of a mainland state, and not even being able to get through one term in a fairly remote, isolated state.


If you prefer, let's discuss Obama's executive experience then, or maybe that isn't convenient for you guys.
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Yes, please!!! Republicans, please give us someone who knows how to think. PLEASE!!! It's been far too long!
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