Same Sex Marriage Thread-Part 2

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skip ahead to the 3:00 mark on this video.

The Moment of Victory in Minnesota (2012) - YouTube

it still boggles my mind how anyone wants to prevent people from marrying ... and you can feel how deeply personal even this small victory (all that happened was that they prevented SSM from being explicitly outlawed in the MN constitution, SSM is not legal in MN) is to all involved.
 
Yeah, not exactly getting that, either.

The organization behind the protests, called "Demos for All" in imitation of the "marriage for all" call of gay-marriage campaigners, claims the Socialist government's reforms, which polls indicate have popular support, would threaten "major and dangerous upheaval."
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Right, because I've heard about so much horror and destruction in the areas where it HAS been legalized.

Oh, wait, no, I haven't.

The Vatican pledged this month never to stop fighting attempts to "erase" the privileged role of heterosexual marriage, which it called "an achievement of civilization".
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1, right, which totally explains why the divorce rate among straight couples is so high, eh? Love the use of the word "privileged", too.
2, don't you guys have some pedophile priests to hide away somewhere? Shut up, you've lost your right to complain about any moral and social issues going on out there.
 
Very few Catholics even listen to the Vatican, let alone the Pope.
 
Court takes CA Prop 8 case


now what?


U.S. Supreme Court to rule on California's Prop. 8 ban on gay marriage
Los Angeles Times | December 7, 2012 | 12:19 PM

The Supreme Court announced today it will rule for the first time on same-sex marriage by deciding the constitutionality of California's Prop. 8, the voter initiative that limited marriage to a man and a woman.
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Mexico will probably legalize it nationwide very soon. Currently legal in Mexico City and recognized nationwide. And yesterday their supreme court ruled against an area that was trying to ban it.

That would sandwich the US between two places where its legal everywhere and not just a few states. Which will speed up the process for it to be legal nationwide here IMO.
 
PennyLanePHINS said:
Mexico will probably legalize it nationwide very soon. Currently legal in Mexico City and recognized nationwide. And yesterday their supreme court ruled against an area that was trying to ban it.

That would sandwich the US between two places where its legal everywhere and not just a few states. Which will speed up the process for it to be legal nationwide here IMO.
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This is good news, but its also sad because it just shows how behind the USA is in the world. We're supposed to be the Land of the Free and a beacon of democracy, yet other nations are passing us up in SSM.

Then again, we had African-Americans as second class citizens until nearly 50 years, so we didn't always live up to our reputation.
 
deep said:
Court takes CA Prop 8 case


now what?
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now what?

Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

Now, I say this does not look good for civil rights.

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I see what they did.
 
Pearl said:
This is good news, but its also sad because it just shows how behind the USA is in the world. We're supposed to be the Land of the Free and a beacon of democracy, yet other nations are passing us up in SSM.

Then again, we had African-Americans as second class citizens until nearly 50 years, so we didn't always live up to our reputation.
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When ever did you, may I ask?
 
Vlad n U 2 said:
When ever did you, may I ask?
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Well, we had democracy much sooner than the Russian people, yes? Sure, only white men had it first, but it's better than what you had. ;-)
 
Pearl said:
Well, we had democracy much sooner than the Russian people, yes? Sure, only white men had it first, but it's better than what you had. ;-)
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The Russian people don't have democracy and haven't, I'm not sure why you think they have it now? Interested to know why you even mentioned the Russian people here. And what is your definition of democracy, the choice between two parties that have little difference between them?
 
Vlad n U 2 said:
The Russian people don't have democracy and haven't, I'm not sure why you think they have it now? Interested to know why you even mentioned the Russian people here. And what is your definition of democracy, the choice between two parties that have little difference between them?
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Aren't you Russian? I believe you mentioned that once.

You asked when did my country ever live up to it's reputation as a beacon of democracy, and I answered. I'm fully aware that Russia has never had any democracy. Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation are what I enjoy reading about.

Also, I would much rather live in a country with only two parties to choose from than not be able to speak out against my President.
 
Pearl said:
Aren't you Russian? I believe you mentioned that once.

You asked when did my country ever live up to it's reputation as a beacon of democracy, and I answered. I'm fully aware that Russia has never had any democracy. Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation are what I enjoy reading about.

Also, I would much rather live in a country with only two parties to choose from than not be able to speak out against my President.
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I'm Belarusian ethnically, but that doesn't matter. With your concluding sentence, I wouldn't prefer either of those systems, as I support a system stateless and classless in nature.

Enough of the OT for now I think.
 
I literally was just going to post in here with a question for you, Alicia.

I was just concerned for your safety, given the calamitous events that have surely befallen your fine state the last 24 hours. What plague are you on? Fires? Locusts?
 
How many people were lined up to marry their goats?

How many were lined up to marry their brothers?

Surely Fox News has these stats somewhere, right?
 
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