You can look back on the old thread -- way back on July 21st and 22nd -- as well as the question I'm about to ask Martha, to see negative impacts I can see. And a thread on equality vs liberty would make an interesting topic IMO.
Yes, and as I recall, we came in and gave responses as to why we think (know?) your arguments are wrong.
As for equality and marriage, let's start with this. Can you name me a society, present or past, that has not places limits or restrictions (made unequal in other words) on the practice of marriage? Limits regarding age, number, bloodline or sex?
Sigh. Here we go again...
There are LOGICAL reasons behind the first three reasons. People have to be of legal age lest there be any chance of abuse and unreasonable control over the person of lower age. Number, likely the same reason, though, as we here have pointed out (and as a fellow religious poster, Sean, has noted), the Bible has multiple stories about relationships where there are more than two people involved. And bloodline, there is a fear of disease and deformity. However, apparently closely related people can still run off and get married in this country! I don't see the anti-same sex marriage people making an equally big demand for constitutional amendments banning incestouous relationships.
Though, as I noted in the last thread, I'm fine with polygamy being legal, as long as everyone's of legal age and consenting. And once more,
you can CHOOSE to be polygamous, you aren't born polygamous. Which is why the comparison isn't quite the same.
And yeah, plenty of societies frown upon members of the same sex getting married. The problem there is, there's absolutely no logical reason why.
I present you this scenario:
Two men have been in a committed, monogamous relationship for, say, 10 years. They love each other deeply, as much as a straight couple would. They want to live together and be happy together, take care of each other, be able to visit each other in the hospital should one get sick, maybe even adopt children someday. So they wish to have a wedding ceremony, to make their relationship official.
Why do you think they don't deserve the right to do that, even with all the proof of how committed they are to each other right there, plain for anyone to see? Why do you think they should be denied the same opportunities and rights with love that you get? If you truly don't have an issue with gay people, if it's not the fact that it's two men in this scenario that's bothering you, then what exactly is the actual problem you see here?
I really would like you to answer this. Please, please, PLEASE answer this.
Likely Mary was about the same age when she gave birth to Jesus.
So is God a statuatoru rapist?
I mean, our only guide is history, right?
Statutory rapist
and promoter of adultery, apparently, 'cause Mary was kind of already taken when God got her pregnant.
But hey, it's in the Bible, and the kid grew up to be our savior, so I guess we can look the other way on his sketchy beginnings, then.
Also, JT, nice clip.