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Old 07-22-2012, 11:21 PM   #871
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How is it possible that the argument against gay marriage just got worse? That has to be the dumbest argument I've ever seen, only the westboro church can outdo that fucked up logic.
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i wish people would realize that the Pilgrims came to the USA for the religious freedom to discriminate against others, and that right is sacred.
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City of Boston, Jim Henson Company Refuse to Do Business with Chick-fil-A

Neetzan Zimmerman

Boston mayor Thomas Menino issued a candid statement last week expressing his distaste for the possibility that the controversial fast-food chain Chick-fil-A might open up a branch in Beantown.

"Chick-fil-A doesn't belong in Boston," said Menino. "You can't have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We're an open city, we're a city that's at the forefront of inclusion."

Dan Cathy, president and COO of the Atlanta-based company's president, incurred the wrath of many when he told the Baptist Press recently that Chick-fil-A was "guilty as charged" in their opposition to same-sex marriage.

Chick-fil-A is reportedly hoping to open a store in Boston, right across the street from City Hall and steps away from the city's iconic Freedom Trail. "That's the Freedom Trail," Menino told the Boston Herald. "That's where it all started right here. And we're not going to have a company, Chick-fil-A or whatever the hell the name is, on our Freedom Trail."

The mayor vowed to make it "very difficult" for Chick-fil-A to obtain the licenses necessary to open an establishment in Boston.

Meanwhile, the Jim Henson Company has also made it clear that they are no longer interested in doing business with Chick-fil-A.

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a statement on its Facebook page. "Lisa Henson, our CEO is personally a strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD."

Chick-fil-A recently began including Jim Henson's Creature Shop toys in their Kid's Meals, and will presumably continue to do so until August 18th.

Elsewhere, activists have launched a call for a National Same-Sex Kiss Day at Chick-fil-A to take place on August 3rd. You can learn more on the initiative's Facebook page.
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It's really awful that good, quality, and often charitable companies are punished by elites simply for speaking out about their deeply held beliefs. Millions of Americans want to discriminate against gay people, as is their protected religious right to do so, and Chik-Fil-A has every right to as well. If there's one thing Mitt Romney has taught us it's that corporations are people, and as people, they are guaranteed the religious freedom to deny civil rights to people who are against their religion.
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Amen, brother!
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As much as I completely disagree with Chick-Fil-A's stance, I have strong reservations against the City of Boston actively working to ensure that no CFA branches open in the city for that reason.
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As much as I completely disagree with Chick-Fil-A's stance, I have strong reservations against the City of Boston actively working to ensure that no CFA branches open in the city for that reason.
I can see that side of it as far as-obviously Mayor Menino doesn't know the gay marriage and gay rights stance of every business in the city of Boston. Chick-Fil-A was just very public about it. So are you going to ask that of every potential business, ask them what their stance is? I'm sure you'll get the truth, when you make that a condition of doing business. On the other hand, how you can have the guy being so public about it when Boston and MA have such a pioneering history in gay rights and gay marriage? Doesn't it make you look like a hypocrite for allowing them to open now? I don't agree at all with the guy's stance (chicken guy), obviously. But I do think that can be a slippery slope, to start making those types of decisions about businesses.

Guess you could argue that freedom to do business is a freedom too, and freedom for consumers to choose whether or not they want to support the place. I'm sure the Freedom Trial might already have businesses who discriminate in some way, shape or form. Or who are owned by someone who is opposed to gay marriage.

On a much lighter note, Mayor Menino should really stick to that " or whatever the hell the name is". It would work for Varitek putting it through the uprights, Wekler and Grabowski...and on and on and on. I need some video of the mayor saying Chick-Fil-A.
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Muppets dump Chick-Fil-A to support gay marriage | Reuters
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Also, Sally Ride was gay.

Thankfully, her partner of 27 years will be denied federal death benefits because of DOMA.
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She was not gay when she went into space. That would have been really big news.
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Thankfully, her partner of 27 years will be denied federal death benefits because of DOMA.
That is indeed disgusting. And RIP to Sally Ride. She was an inspirational woman.
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But remember, that's not as insulting as calling people like Prejean dumb.

Sigh. Anywho, MrsS, great post. Well said.

It is cool, though, to see that Boston and the Jim Henson Company show their support for gay rights loud and clear.
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That has to be the dumbest argument I've ever seen, only the westboro church can outdo that fucked up logic.
Can't tell which or whose argument you're referring to, but at a minimum this doesn't sound like a halfway serious attempt to confront it.
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She was not gay when she went into space. That would have been really big news.
I hadn't really thought about Sally Ride in 20-odd years and was not quite 12 when she made her first shuttle flight, but reading the articles about her death tonight brought back some pretty vivid memories of just how insulting the "journalistic" questions and attitudes aimed at a highly ambitious woman in the public eye could be, back in 1983. "Do you cry when things go wrong on the job?" "Will you wear a bra in space?" "Do you plan to have children?" Etc. Never mind the unthinkability of being an out lesbian (or bisexual, whatever) in that position at that time.
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I hadn't really thought about Sally Ride in 20-odd years and was not quite 12 when she made her first shuttle flight, but reading the articles about her death tonight brought back some pretty vivid memories of just how insulting the "journalistic" questions and attitudes aimed at a highly ambitious woman in the public eye could be, back in 1983. "Do you cry when things go wrong on the job?" "Will you wear a bra in space?" "Do you plan to have children?" Etc. Never mind the unthinkability of being an out lesbian (or bisexual, whatever) in that position at that time.
...wow . It's always sad to be reminded that there are people who are really that stupid and pigheaded.

("Will you wear a bra in space?" The hell does that have to do with anything? Of all the topics that can be discussed in relation to someone going into space, whether or not an astronaut's wearing a bra isn't exactly on my list of things I care one bit about. Good grief. And people like that actually had/have careers in journalism?)

Anywho, shame to hear of her passing. She had a bold spirit. May she rest in peace.
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I hadn't really thought about Sally Ride in 20-odd years and was not quite 12 when she made her first shuttle flight, but reading the articles about her death tonight brought back some pretty vivid memories of just how insulting the "journalistic" questions and attitudes aimed at a highly ambitious woman in the public eye could be, back in 1983. "Do you cry when things go wrong on the job?" "Will you wear a bra in space?" "Do you plan to have children?" Etc.

i am all for equality and think the genders should be treated equally, but why do we have to pretend that they are the same? why shouldn't we wonder if a woman would cry if she were to, say, bomb Baghdad? and why shouldn't we be concerned that her breasts may get in the way of her making repairs to the international space station? men are not women, nor are women men. the American public has the right to know.

gender equity doesn't mean pretending that the genders are the same, and the way that we affirm that gender does indeed matter is to celebrate traditional marriage by telling Sally Ride's partner that she's no more important in the eyes of the law to than the woman who scooped Sally Ride's ice cream at Baskin Robbins.

gender matters. it makes babies.
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