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Old 12-27-2006, 11:49 AM   #91
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Why is your focus on the murderer? Why are you trying to make excuses for a MURDERER? There is NO EXCUSE FOR MURDER. Why do you have such sympathy for murderers? I will never understand that.
well, you obviously still don't get his point.

his focus is on the murderer, because the murderer is the problem that needs to be taken care of by society. just like your focus is on the murderer; you only disagree on what needs to be done with him/her.

if a child has been brutally beaten and sexually abused by a swine of a father every day through 18 years and suddenly one day, in a moment of rage, stabs him in the back with a knife, would you decide to give this 18-year-old the death penalty?
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omg I am not using emotion. I just want him dead. Your the one brining emotion into this also if your saying I am, because you have respect for his life, by not wanting him dead.
Take a look at your posts, they are filled with anger and are all emotionally charged. "I just want him dead", is an emotional response, it comes with no logical reasoning.

I've never responded emotional in this thread, I never said anything about his life in paticular.
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Of course not.

She should be a free person in my book. Her government failed in protecting her and cannot blame her for trying to help herself.
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Why is your focus on the murderer? Why are you trying to make excuses for a MURDERER? There is NO EXCUSE FOR MURDER. Why do you have such sympathy for murderers? I will never understand that.
Why do you live in such a simple world?
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Can you honestly say, this is to all the anti-death penalty opponents that never once in your life, you felt he/she deserved the DP?

Why is my view on the DP wrong? There is no wrong or right in this. This is my beliefs, like your belief that Abortion is ok.
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Of course not.

She should be a free person in my book. Her government failed in protecting her and cannot blame her for trying to help herself.
See this is where you constantly contradict yourself. The example he gave IS murder. It's just justiable murder in your eyes.

So once again you contradict yourself.
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I really want to know your backround on why you never supported the DP, what made you see it as something wrong? Is it because of religion, morals what?
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Can you honestly say, this is to all the anti-death penalty opponents that never once in your life, you felt he/she deserved the DP?

Why is my view on the DP wrong? There is no wrong or right in this.
No one deserves death. No one.

Yes, there is a wrong and right.

Don't coward out by bringing in another issue, you don't know my full view on that issue, so don't pretend to do so.
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I really want to know your backround on why you never supported the DP, what made you see it as something wrong? Is it because of religion, morals what?
I've answered this question about 50 times for you, I don't know any other way to explain it so that you get it. Sorry.
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you still did not answer my question completly.
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See this is where you constantly contradict yourself. The example he gave IS murder. It's just justiable murder in your eyes.

So once again you contradict yourself.
That's a good point. I didn't explain myself at all. A murder as an initial act (say someone who doesn't have anything to do with their eventual murderer) is inexcusable.
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That's a good point. I didn't explain myself at all. A murder as an initial act (say someone who doesn't have anything to do with their eventual murderer) is inexcusable.
Well then this changes your stance somewhat now doesn't it?
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well, take a look at these quotes:

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If the punishment for murder is your own execution then by murdering someone you are accepting the terms and conditions of your government and so accepting to be executed. That simple.

If you know what the punishment is for a certain act and you don't like then DON'T DO IT.
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I have proven that not murdering anyone is really what I least expect from someone who wants to be a part of society. That's it.

You KNEW the rules, you still went ahead and did it, YOU brought this upon yourself. End of story.
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Of course not.

She should be a free person in my book. Her government failed in protecting her and cannot blame her for trying to help herself.
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omg I am not using emotion. I just want him dead. Your the one brining emotion into this also if your saying I am, because you have respect for his life, by not wanting him dead.
Ok, so you say you aren't using emotion. So tell us, without saying anything about anyone's (your's, the friends and relatives of the victims, the Iraqi people's, etc.) desire or wish for his death, how his execution benefits society.


BrownEyedBoy -- feel free to answer as well.
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That's a good point. I didn't explain myself at all. A murder as an initial act (say someone who doesn't have anything to do with their eventual murderer) is inexcusable.
so the world isn't black and white, after all?
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