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Old 07-21-2003, 07:04 AM   #1
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Saddam More Dangerous Defeated According to INtelligence Community

[Q]But declassified portions of a still-secret National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released Friday by the White House show that at the time of the president's speech the U.S. intelligence community judged that possibility to be unlikely. fact, the NIE, which began circulating Oct. 2, shows the intelligence services were much more worried that Hussein might give weapons to al Qaeda terrorists if he were facing death or capture and his government was collapsing after a military attack by the United States.[/Q]

Now this is interesting!!!!!

Where are the WMD?????????

Why didn't the President take this into account??????http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hptop_tb

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The declassified sections of the NIE were offered by the White House to rebut allegations that the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq's nuclear weapons program. The result, however, could be to raise more questions about whether the administration misrepresented the judgments of the intelligence services on another basis for going to war: the threat posed by Hussein as a source of weapons for terrorists.
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but God is on our side! we will be the victors!

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Here is my belief about your statement, red Ships:

You're right. God wasn't on our side.

We were on His side.
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80s, how on earth do you feel you have the grounds to make that claim?
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Here is my belief about your statement, red Ships:

You're right. God wasn't on our side.

We were on His side.
If that is true i want to go to hell,...
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Here is my belief about your statement, red Ships:

You're right. God wasn't on our side.

We were on His side.
The last time I checked God didn't want me to use lies in order to kill. But maybe I missed that part in Bible school. I'll take your word for it, you seem to have the market on the truth.
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80's has merely stated this is his belief, right or wrong in someone's opinion is not grounds to start picking on the individual.
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Some group of Moslems gave a tape to Al-Jazeera TV. They are out to get Americans *and* Iraqis helping Americans in Iraq, according to a report on my ISP's news. This scares me. What the hell is going on here? More war? How much more?
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80sU2isBest: who is "we" - the US?

if yes - when were they on Gods side?

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Come on people, what does this have to do with the fact that quite possibly, the administration ignored some intelligence or may e did not present this part of the case to the House and Senate. Want to bet it wasn't?

I really expected more from this thread.
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Dreadsox,

This was a widely discussed point as late as last summer and not something that was classified. In addition, much of the reason for disarming Hussien had to do with his past behavior and not the possibility of him arming terrorist, although that was indeed a possibility. Judging what Saddam would and would not do was very difficult. The same intelligence community overwhelmingly said he would never invade Kuwait, but he did.

Saddam's unpredictability and refusal to cooperate in disarmament is precisely why he had to go.
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Dreadsox:

if the declassified part is the same as the genaral context of the document it would mean that the US Government didn't start a war because of the informations they had but although they had the information.
-> the WMDs were not the real reason for the War.

So there is left: Oil and strategic interests

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I never, ever understood the administration's apparently desperate desire/need to go to war RIGHT then and there. They were unwilling to spend any more time on it, they repeatedly shut down efforts by the Canadian government to produce a deal that would sort of mediate between the French/Germans/Russians and the US, and insisted that the reasoning was they could waste absolutely not another second. That is how things were presented and I always felt it was bullshit. Seems to me now they were willing to bypass logic and foresight just to get their way.

As for why the thread went the way it did, I believe "we were on his side" is a borderline inflammatory statement, because we were not all on the same side and I'll be damned if somebody else dictates to us who was and was not on God's side. Just saying.
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As for why the thread went the way it did, I believe "we were on his side" is a borderline inflammatory statement, because we were not all on the same side and I'll be damned if somebody else dictates to us who was and was not on God's side. Just saying.
It's all cool....

BTW....Clay and I will be by to serenade you!!!

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BTW....Clay and I will be by to serenade you!!!

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You know I love ya, Dreadsox. I actually think you're my favourite non-leftist in the whole wide world.
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