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Old 01-01-2007, 04:57 PM   #196
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even if the vast majority of what you say is true, no one can deny that saddam killed and tortured thousands of people and that it would be a slap in the face to their relatives, if saddam was just set free.

but i agree entirely, that saddam is not the only culprit in this game. he was just easy to eradicate so that others could wash their hands and not fear that he would eventually tell the world something they wouldnt want the world to hear.
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I pray that I never live in a country where the murderer and torturer of millions of innocent lives is treated just as lightly as the murderer of one.
So sorry to end your illusions .. you do.
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If your into evolution, then were still a planet of apes, only we don't look like our cousins in the Zoo.
Why are you badmouthing apes? The human race is much more cruel than any other species on this planet.
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Is it because of my beliefs in pro-death penalty. So people who believe in that are narrow minded and sheep and people who are against it are more enlightened?
Yes.

(poor sheep, however)

Say hi to your mom and your priest. I do believe they are more "enlightened" and they are closer to following Jesus´ words than you.
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you almost seem to take joy in the fact that humans have suffered. That is something I will never be able to understand.
Many people seem to take joy in that.

That´s human nature.

If they wouldn´t, this planet wouldn´t be so fucked up.

Lots of others just don´t care, or underestimate their influence. How many scientits construct weapons and viruses without taking responsibility? Slaves of money. How many soldiers are out there killing civilians without taking responsibility? Slaves of what they call their country.

Human nature.

No disrespect 2 the birds n bees!

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he invaded Iran at our (U S) behest

to contain the Ayatollah (the guy that threw the Shah (our puppet) out and took Americans hostage)

Saddam was executed for putting down
an attempted Shia (Iranian) assassination on his life in 1982 (having those involved killed, the way it is done during times of war and treason - collaboration with the enemy, Iran)

What did America (the then Reagan administration) think of that?

Well, Reagan sent Rumsfeld in 1983
(the year after 1982 incident
that Saddam was executed for)

to say "Good job!"



Hi deep -

nice picture.

That´s the point I made by replying to shart1780 s post (see 4 posts up there). Thank you for the illustration.
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Was in a Radio Shack in my hometown in western North Dakota at the end of the year. The salesman made small talk by suggesting that Saddam should have been brought to Times Square and hanged on New Year's eve by the dropping ball counting down to midnight.

Bush has destroyed not only Iraq but our country also.
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Yep, sure did. Pretty sure we paid for a bunch of the weapons in Afghanistan too, incidentally.

People are being pretty disrespectful of Justin in this thread. While I don't necessarily agree with him on many issues, some of the comments are pretty personal.
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what i found most interesting were the cries of "Moktada! Moktada! Moktada!" after Saddam was hung.

one dictator for another.

no progress.
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Hey Irvine, Happy New Year!



there are probably a lot of people that do not realize that Moktada

is Sadr

and he considered Rumsfeld a friend
as he set his death squads free to cut heads
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Yes.

(poor sheep, however)

Say hi to your mom and your priest. I do believe they are more "enlightened" and they are closer to following Jesus´ words than you.
Nice attack. I do hope you have a splenddid day and please do keep safe and have a happy new year. I hope you like how I am killing you with Kindness.
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I've had a long think about this, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't support this execution at all.

Casting aside the death penalty debate, what this has done is to create a martyr figure for the insurgents, and I think Iraq will suffer further destabilisation.

Sad, really.
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and what's going to be worse is when the US is going to be forced to choose a side in the civil war -- Sunni or Shiite?

truly, no good options. no options.
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what i found most interesting were the cries of "Moktada! Moktada! Moktada!" after Saddam was hung.

one dictator for another.

no progress.


The whole Saddam thing was a sad and disgusting parade. He was a brutal bastard, but is our goal to become just like him in his wake? The old adage is true--violence begets violence.
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I truly don't know how to feel about this.

Of course the death penalty is wrong and it is hipocritical that we are saying that murder is against the law but we are doing it to someone too.

But also he killed a lot of people.

I wouldn't think executing is the right answer but I would do something enough of what he deserves
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