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Old 04-08-2003, 09:47 AM   #16
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I have my doubts. Saddam is probably smarter than that to be above ground, if he is as paranoid as we know him to be.

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He is a paranoid without access to all his underground bunkers...
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If this is the same "intelligence" that told us about the weapons of mass destruction, or the same intelligence that prompted the very first bombing, it's really not worth talking about it until there is evidence. Just like so many other terms this war has abused, intelligence is one that has began to lost it's meaning.
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Personally, I don't mind if they got Saddam and his sons but I hope to heck no other civilians were around to be killed too. The guys are all 's. If they got him it will save many lives. This is good.
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If this is the same "intelligence" that told us about the weapons of mass destruction, or the same intelligence that prompted the very first bombing, it's really not worth talking about it until there is evidence. Just like so many other terms this war has abused, intelligence is one that has began to lost it's meaning.
Living in an instant gratification society, we do lose sight of what "intelligence" means in this context. We expect to know exactly what is happening the instant it happens - without errors.

In this instance, it appears eyes on the ground watched Saddam & Sons enter the building and called in the strike. Bombs hit the structure within 12 minutes.

On the opening night of the war, hours passed from the time intelligence targeted Saddam's location to when the first cruise missles and bunker busters hit the target.
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that's all well and good basstrap, but if it brings about a quicker end to the war (and it would), it saves possibly thousands of more lives in the process, maybe tens of thousands
it wouldn't bring about a quicker end to the war
the iraqi regime will fight to the death with or without him
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it wouldn't bring about a quicker end to the war
the iraqi regime will fight to the death with or without him
Perhaps. I just wish they wouldn't for the sake of saving lives. Oh well........
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it wouldn't bring about a quicker end to the war
the iraqi regime will fight to the death with or without him
really? how many have already surrendered? what's even left of the 'mighty' iraqi army?
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that would happen if saddem was in power.
Im just saying at this stage in the game, whether he is dead or alive is not going to impact the speed of which the war is over with
he is not in ultimate control
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so your contention is that no one is in control and the iraqi military continues its meager "resistance" because it's determined to fight to the death no matter what?
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seems like an awful lot of bombs to blow up one house...
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Old 04-09-2003, 07:20 AM   #27
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Wanderer...allow me to put it in simple point form for you

-Saddam is not in power now as one might think
-I never said they were putting up strong resistance
-whatever is left of the regime leader-wise will not surrender any faster whether saddam is dead or alive
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