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Old 11-17-2005, 09:13 PM   #1
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Saddam and 9/11

78% of people believed that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks, what do people think created that impression in peoples minds?

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Re: Saddam and 9/11

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78% of people believed that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks, what do people think created that impression in peoples minds?

Are you joking?
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:21 PM   #3
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This poll was taken in 2003. I wonder if the results would be the same if taken today? I would hope people would have learned they were dupe, but I wouldn't count on it.
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Funny thread.
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Re: Re: Saddam and 9/11

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Are you joking?
I assure you that I am not, and the reason will become clear in short time.

I strongly suggest that people study the dates of the poll and think about how the impression that led to the assumption was created.
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the majority of the people that voted for Bush in 2004

believed:

1. There was a direct BinLaden connection to Saddam

2. Saddam was involved or responsible for 911



my guess in where you are going?

is that it is the media's fauld
Their reporting led to these misimpressions

of course that is a load of crap


Perhaps you will enlighten us with
you thoughts here

or

is this a gotcha game?
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My contention is that the figure given there had a lot to do with the creation of Saddam Hussein as enemy number 1 by the Clinton administration for eight years prior and that the assumption was maintained without the need for the Bush administration to tell people that Saddam and 9/11 were connected.
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My contention is that the figure given there had a lot to do with the creation of Saddam Hussein as enemy number 1 by the Clinton administration for eight years prior and that the assumption was maintained without the need for the Bush administration to tell people that Saddam and 9/11 were connected.

ridiculous


Saddam invaded Kuwait in 01


And when Oklahoma building was bombed

Saddam/ blur/ Muslims were assumed the attackers

then McVeigh was caught



911 happened and

and we had BinLaden on the map
remember Clinton had bombed his camp in Afghanistan

yes, Saddam was on the screen, too


but it was Cheney and his neocon machine that pushed the Saddam connection

perhaps you swallowed it

bringing Clinton in now is just plain neocon wishful thinking

or, more direct - crap.

no sale

but there may be takers

it is always a sale for some
if you can get wet Willy in the picture.
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I honestly think it's absolutely ludicrous.
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Clinton was right in the 1990's and there was no link between Iraq and September 11, that has consistently been my point of view.

Why did so many people instantly blame Saddam after the attacks? why was he bad guy number 1 in peoples minds? This occured before it could be spun.

By your logic the belief in connections between 9/11 and Saddam should have increased by the start of the war when this polling shows that it actually decreased.
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By your logic the belief in connections between 9/11 and Saddam should have increased by the start of the war when this polling shows that it actually decreased.
The truth is a funny thing isn't.

Look back in here when the war started there were many of us in here that had to remind, shit we still have to remind many of those that support the war that Saddam wasn't involved.

But blaming Clinton...that's classic.
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The basic policy towards Iraq was taken to the next level by this administration in pursuing military action. The public required relatively little convincing of Saddams supposed posession of WMD because through public statement by experts, politicians and actions by the regime the impression that he had them was entrenched, the reason that Saddam behaved in this manner has since become more clear - it was a ploy to keep the Iranians at bay until he could get sanctions lifted and restart his program.

In retrospect I think that something went seriously wrong with intelligence on Iraq and the shaping of policy. The fact that the Democrats sought a policy of containment and engaged in military strikes against facilities within the country and gave of very similar justifications for their policy as this Republican administration is a testament to that.

If roles were reversed then I guarantee that the Republicans would be doing the same damn thing and their scare quotes about Iraq could be brought up to haunt them.
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Clinton was right in the 1990's and there was no link between Iraq and September 11, that has consistently been my point of view.

Why did so many people instantly blame Saddam after the attacks? why was he bad guy number 1 in peoples minds? This occured before it could be spun.

By your logic the belief in connections between 9/11 and Saddam should have increased by the start of the war when this polling shows that it actually decreased.
Because people wanted to have a scapegoat for the 9/11 attacks and Saddam happen to be around. Try to convince a bunch of people that they are wrong when they full off hate and revenge feelings they grab any excuse. And when people where not ready to go to war, they where labeled as anti american, not patriotic and saddam lovers. And who want to be that ?
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Why did so many people instantly blame Saddam after the attacks? why was he bad guy number 1 in peoples minds? This occured before it could be spun.
Not true. No one knew shit first. After two days it was about Bin Laden. This continued for a couple of weeks, then the US administration turned to Saddam. Which is the reason why everyone here (except of Blair and Berlusconi, who were good subordinates) was asking "huh? what does Bush want now?" -> Iraq war opposition.

Like deep said, Cheney et al made it up.
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what hip hop said..

Saddam and 9/11 had NO connection whatsoever.

I dont how american people fell for it...

Cant they understand this?

all al-qaeda guys are in afghanistan and pakistan and some at other places...their financers are in europe

where does iraq come into picture

nowhere
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