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Old 08-25-2004, 02:54 AM   #1
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Russian Plane Crashes

Allright, as it now stands Two Russian Airliners have crashed within 3 minutes of eachother and a bomb has gone off at a Moscow Bus Station. Witnesses to the crash saw an explosion on board the Passenger plane before it crashed. This has killed some 90 people, this is not good.

Now lets not be too hastly to jump to conclusions, until every fact is on the table this is all speculation. However the Chechen elections are coming up soon, the tactic of hijackings and more particuarly suicide attacks is a long used tool of terrorists. It is not inconcievable that these events are connected.

Lets just hope that this is an isolated fluke crash of two planes from the same country at practically the same time, if it is a terrorist strike and if it is done by Islamists this may not be limited to Russia, considering Bojinka and the other means of attack this could be part of something bigger. Islamic Terrorism is a very dangerous problem and it cannot be appeased, if this proves to be terrorist related and to be connected to the Chechens and/or Islamist terror networks it could become worse than it allready is.

If this is Islamic terrorism Muslims in Russia are a certain to face severe backlash over this, lets just hope it isnt and that nobody gets hurt because of what they believe, we could see a vast contrast between how well Muslims were treated after 9.11 and how a less tollerent society might.

Pray for peace if you are religious, hope for the best if your not - violence is not good.
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Little bit of an update, the second plane was flying to the Black Sea resort city of Sochi, where Putin was vacationing, this is another little bit that may be related.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ia_plane_crash
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What the bloody hell, I cannot see anyone elses posts, this is downright wierd.
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i learned the art of posting blank tags, from a veteran.

ie .... [i] and then close it of course, post nothing in your tags.
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This is awful. When I heard about the first one crashing and the second one missing I was afraid they might have their own 9-11 and something might crash into the Kremlin. I don't think there's much question it's the Chechens again. What a tragedy.
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But thats the rub aint it, Chechens, Palestinians, or Saudies it doesn't really make much of a difference, all these groups have commonality and they make up the larger Islamist Terror web, this is a world war of the globalization age and it knows no boundaries.
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sad news.

Terrorism is flourishing because of apathy shown.

And those who speak condone it or try to rationalise it.
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sad news.

Terrorism is flourishing because of apathy shown.

And those who speak condone it or try to rationalise it.
Not to forget there are lots and lots of supporters and even more sympathisers.
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Russia Probes Cause of Two Plane Crashes

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Russia's main intelligence agency, however, said it had found no evidence of terrorism in initial investigations at the crash sites. The Federal Security Service, or FSB, said it was investigating other possibilities such as technical failures, the use of poor quality fuel, breaches of fueling regulations and pilot error, its press service told The Associated Press. Rain and thunder was reported in the regions where both crashes occurred.
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It may be a set of tragic accidents nothing more, but the Chechens can very well be behind this.
It's their style of attack.
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Anyone seen anything on the age and maintenance of the airplanes involved?
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