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Old 09-28-2007, 01:28 PM   #1
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Rush Limbaugh Defines A Real Vs A "Phony" Soldier

WASHINGTON (CNN) — In the wake of the high-profile uproar from Republicans over a MoveOn.org ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus, Democrats are seizing on recent comments from popular conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh who said on a recent broadcast on Iraq that some veterans who criticize the war in the media are "phony soldiers."

Democrats are pointing to comments Limbaugh made Wednesday when he and a caller were discussing critics of the Iraq war:

"What's really funny is, they [Iraq war critics] never talk to real soldiers," the caller said. "They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media."

"The phony soldiers," Limbaugh then said.
(he went on.."If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country."

In a statement issued Thursday, Rep. Chris Van Hollen, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, called Limbaugh's comments a "personal attack on our men and women in uniform" and "reprehensible."

"It minimizes the sacrifice our troops in Iraq and their families are making and has no place in the public discourse," he added. "Rush Limbaugh owes our military and their families an apology for his hurtful comments that minimize their service to our country."

Also Thursday, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, a veteran of the Vietnam War, called the comments a "disgusting attack."

“In a single moment on his show, Limbaugh managed to question the patriotism of men and women in uniform who have put their lives on the line and many who died for his right to sit safely in his air-conditioned studio peddling hate," Kerry said in a statement. "He is an embarrassment to his party, and I expect the Republicans who flock to his microphone will now condemn this indefensible statement.”

Meanwhile, Rep. Patrick Murphy, D-Pennsylvania, an Iraq War veteran, said, "Someone should tell chicken-hawk Rush Limbaugh that the only phonies are those who choose not to serve and then criticize those who do."

And on the House floor Thursday, Rep. Frank Pallone, Jr., D-New Jersey, said Republicans should hold MoveOn.org and Limbaugh to the "same standard."

"I wonder if Republicans who showed so much outrage towards MoveOn.org yesterday will hold Rush Limbaugh to the same standard, and I wouldn’t hold your breath," he said.

On Wednesday, the House voted 341-79 to condemn the liberal group's recent newspaper ad dubbing Petraeus "General Betray Us?"



You can read more about it at Media Matters

http://mediamatters.org/items/200709...em200709270010
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There is a wide range of folks serving in the military. It is my experience, that those doing most of the fighting (Infantry especially) are EXREMELY supportive of the war effort.

You will always be able to find a soldier here and there that doesn't like their situation. But is is also my experience that the more vocal critics are the non-combat arms...
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Some of those soldiers who wrote the op ed in the NY Times (as mentioned by Media Matters) were recently killed in Iraq. Were they real or phony soldiers? In my opinion no one has the right to call anyone a phony soldier-all are as real as real gets as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe some of Rush's "real" soldiers are afraid to speak their minds.
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And sometimes a person can find a few Black Sabbath fans at a U2 show.

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And sometimes a person can find a few Black Sabbath fans at a U2 show.
How does that relate to this at all?
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Limbaugh has been scum since Day One. Let's all remember that Limbaugh is definitely an authority on being a phony because he's the biggest phony out there. Everyone should just consider the source and move on.

I bet if we hooked good old Rushie up with some Oxycodene (or whatever the fuck it was) he'd shut the Hell up.
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I still remember Rush Limbaugh encouraging all his listeners to buy a premium membership to his website for a soldier--at a discounted rate of $49.95. He could have offered the memberships free to the soldiers, but chose to make some money off his listeners' good will toward the soldiers, while upping his subscription numbers. He presented it as a wonderful offer to allow his listeners to do something really good for the soldiers.

https://members.premiereinteractive....566/45108.html

Cause what the soldiers need most is a premium membership to Rush's website. Cause what benefits Rush must benefit the soldiers.

Because of the nature of talk radio, I've listened much more to conservative talk than liberal talk. I've heard many times a soldier's or a soldier's family member call disagreeing with either the war itself or the way it is being handled and almost across the board, the host says the caller is misrepresenting himself.
I'm not saying it's impossible. The same way it's not impossible for anyone to misrepresent themselves. But the hosts have no other reason for accusing them of misrepresentation but an opinion expressed that differs from theirs. I think if I were a soldier, I would find it offensive that all soldiers are supposed to think alike. I think I would find it offensive that a soldier of any stripe would have their soldier's credentials challenged just for expessing a viewpoint that they are risking their lives for the right to express. You sacrifice a lot being a soldier--independent thought or dignity in expressing it shouldn't be part of that package.

I listen to Limbaugh sometimes just to see propaganda in action.
I'm aware that the left has their own propagandists. But to watch the twists Limbaugh puts on things is amazing.
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^Hmm, that's interesting

Seems to be that a much stronger Army would be made up of independent and free and critical thinking, but some people clearly feel differently. Then again I certainly don't hold any opinion of Rush's in any sort of esteem-but it's offensive to me all the same. Perhaps the graves of soldiers should be marked accordingly-real or "phony"
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A few weeks ago one of my friends was in town and wanted me and my bf to go out to a club with her. I'm not much for partying, but we went and ended up sitting at a table with one of her friends and that friend's fiance. He was a career Marine who had served almost 20 years and had already done tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. He was scheduled to be sent back to Iraq in a few weeks. I didn't want to get into talk about politics because I assumed that he and I would be on completely opposite sides of the fence. Surprisingly, another guy at the table brought up the war and Bush and this hardened combat soldier spit out with disgust, "I hate that bastard!" And then proceeded to tell stories about seeing his buddies head blown apart in front of him and having his brains splattered all over him. And ranted about the way the operations in Afghanistan had been handled and how they had the rug cut out from under them so that GW could pursue a personal war in Iraq. It really shocked me. This guy was in no way a bleeding heart liberal or a "phony" soldier.
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