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Rove will be fired, no other significant effects 2 5.88%
Business as usual, Rove will be cleared of any wrongdoing 22 64.71%
'Rovegate' is the tripswitch which will lead to the full exposure of Bushco 0 0%
Rove will be cleared, but once the troops start coming home, there will be more trouble for Bushco 2 5.88%
Bushco will come up with something to take the media's attention away from 'Rovegate' 5 14.71%
Other (please elaborate) 3 8.82%
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Old 07-16-2005, 06:04 PM   #1
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'Rovegate'

What will be the results of the current controversy regarding the alleged leaking of the name of a CIA operative back in '03, and related ongoing investigation?
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option 2 (business as usual). unless there's something I don't know, I don't think they have a strong enough case against the guy (as much as I dislike him)
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Old 07-16-2005, 07:04 PM   #3
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I think he survives it....
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Choice #2. For some reason, every high official that's been in the Bush administration seems to escape the fire.
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Business as usual. Karl Rove should get fired but he won't.
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Karl Rove should get fired but he won't
Can you explain to me why you think he should get fired?

He committed no criminal acts.

Seems like you guys are missing the point here.
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Can you explain to me why you think he should get fired?

He committed no criminal acts.

Seems like you guys are missing the point here.


Q: Given recent developments in the CIA leak case, particularly Vice President [Dick] Cheney's discussions with the investigators, do you still stand by what you said several months ago, a suggestion that it might be difficult to identify anybody who leaked the agent's name?

BUSH: That's up to --

Q: And, and, do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?

BUSH: Yes. And that's up to the U.S. attorney to find the facts.




sounds like you're missing the point. technical legalities aside, Bush said that he would fire anyone involved in the leaking of Valerie Plame's name.

i find it funny that the WH is now engaging in what's now known as Clintonian semantics. we need to understand that even if no actual technical violation of the law is found, it will still be true that White House actions compromised a CIA asset during a time of war.

we also have, on record, Scott McClellan telling the American people that Rove was not involved, and that the President would remove anyone found to be involved.

let's restore dignity and honor to the White House.
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If what I am reading this morning is accurate....

Rove did nothing wrong.....
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If what I am reading this morning is accurate....

Rove did nothing wrong.....
yeah, that's the impression I'm getting too. unfortunately Judith Miller is sitting in jail right now, and there's probably not even a very strong case against the guy.
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Apparently all the reporters have testified to the Grand Jury that they Rove did not leak her name.

Hahahaha. What a joke.

The abuse of power was some partison CIA agents authorizing investigations, getting the results they wanted, not letting anyone know about the investigation until they deemed appropriate.
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it will still be true that White House actions compromised a CIA asset during a time of war
Again - where are you getting this from?
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The root of the problem is a CIA operative sending her own HUSBAND overseas on a mission. I work in a non-sensitive position in the government, and even there a husband/wife working relationship does not fly. Too much opportunity for scuttle butt.

To make the situation even messier, the former ambassador seems to have an obvious political agenda.
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Again - where are you getting this from?
No, no, no, where are YOU getting your info from?
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The abuse of power was some partison CIA agents authorizing investigations, getting the results they wanted, not letting anyone know about the investigation until they deemed appropriate.
I think the abuse of power was two dubious elections, elements of the CIA being unhappy with the politicised intelligence they were being made to 'find', the fact that the Iraq invasion was sold on a tissue of LIES, and the take-over of elements of your government by what I would see as far right elements.
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The root of the problem is a CIA operative sending her own HUSBAND overseas on a mission. I work in a non-sensitive position in the government, and even there a husband/wife working relationship does not fly. Too much opportunity for scuttle butt.

To make the situation even messier, the former ambassador seems to have an obvious political agenda.
Uh Oh....

Someone making an intelligent point....

there goes the thread.....

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