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Old 10-17-2005, 06:47 PM   #16
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If Clinton White House did this the republicans would have hung him from a flagpole.
One minute Rove had nothing to do with it WHATSOEVER. It was "ridiculous" to even think so said a certain White House spokesperson.
Then all of a sudden.....why am I not shocked?
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I don't care who it is, if someone in the White House has committed a crime, they should pay for it. This includes Rove. He's a citizen just like me.
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”I told Mr. Fitzgerald that Mr. Libby might have thought I still had security clearance, given my special embedded status in Iraq. At the same time, I told the grand jury I thought that at our July 8 meeting I might have expressed frustration to Mr. Libby that I was not permitted to discuss with editors some of the more sensitive information about Iraq.”

Providing a journalist with a security clearance is unusual to begin with—former CBS correspondent Bill Lynch has likened it to the government's licensing journalists—but a security clearance within a WMD investigations unit dealing with highly sensitive matters is hard to believe.

If Miller couldn't tell her editors what she had learned as a reporter because it would be revealing classified information, then how could she perform her job as a reporter?

Did Miller instead become a secret government agent, as it were, operating within The New York Times?

In any event, she may have come close to violating secrecy laws herself.

no hero


just a slime

printing lies

masquerading as a journalist.
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President Bush vowed Thursday to avoid the "background noise" of investigations and political problems to focus on the nation's needs.

"The American people expect me to do my job, and I'm going to," he said.

With his political stock falling and several allies under investigation, Bush tried to keep focus on the nation's business at a Rose Garden news conference with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

... Asked how he is dealing with such a full plate, Bush said: "There is some background noise here, a lot of chatter, a lot of speculation and opining, but the American people expect me to do my job and I'm going to."

He also said, "part of my job is to work with others to fashion a world that will be peaceful for future generations. I've got a job to do to make sure the economy continues to grow. I've got a job to make sure there is a plausible reconstruction plan for cities affected by Katrina."
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I don't want to see anybody opining in here anymore.
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opining was outlawed as of 5 PM ET yesterday
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They are all scared shitless at the WhiteHouse.

Rove, Libby, Cheney should be indicted, convicted and jailed.

A side question, is Libby related to the Libby of Watergate under Nixon?
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A side question, is Libby related to the Libby of Watergate under Nixon?


no. this is "Scooter" Libby -- Cheney's chief of staff.

the Libby of Watergate is G. Gordon Liddy who is now a rabid right wing talk show host who writes books with titles like When I Was a Kid, This Was a Free Country and made some waves in the mid-1990s by telling his viewers that, should federal agents ever come to the house, to make sure that they aimed for the heads and not the chests, because the agents wear bullet proof vests but not helmets.

both classy guys.
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:19 AM   #25
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both classy guys.

Apparently, yes.

You never know.. maybe its the coke.. certainly it makes people arrogant.
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It's sounding like Fitzgerald may have caught Judy Miller in a classic perjury trap...will probably use her to bring 'em all down; good write-up at Billmon:

http://billmon.org/archives/002282.html

And, I like what Arrianna's doing at her site; she's opposiing Judy's "we all got it wrong!" contentions with a list of journalists who got it right:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...y-_b_9239.html
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:39 PM   #27
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I think the only appropriate comment here should be:

LET JUSTICE BE DONE. (and yes, that is a "shout".)

I think a stanza from W.H. Auden is appropriate here:

Acts of injustice done
In history lie like bones, every one.

As we all know, history does not always agree with Auden's take. But sometimes it does.
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As anticipation built in Washington about potential indictments -- and what it would mean for a Bush administration beset by low approval ratings, the Iraq war and a controversial Supreme Court nomination -- a related problem was brewing in Italy over how the Niger allegations made their way into the intelligence stream.


Italian parliamentary officials announced that the head of Italy's military secret service, the SISMI intelligence agency, would be questioned next month about allegations that his agency gave the disputed documents to the United States and Britain, an Associated Press report said. A spokeswoman said Nicolo Pollari, the agency's director, asked to be questioned after reports this week in Italy's La Repubblica newspaper claiming that SISMI sent the CIA and U.S. and British officials information that it knew was forged.





The newspaper reported that Pollari met at the White House on Sept. 9, 2002, with then-deputy national security advisor Stephen J. Hadley. The Niger claims surfaced shortly thereafter. A spokesman for Hadley, now the national security advisor, confirmed that the meeting took place but declined to say what was discussed.

Hadley played a prominent role in the controversy over Bush's claims in his State of the Union address. He took responsibility for inserting into the speech the famous 16 words that laid out the allegations.
Don't you think that the Administration would be up in arms that someone misleads them?

Provided fake evidence?

I sure would be.

Seems like the only one that was outraged is Colin Powell.

Why is that?

Who is stupid enough to believe that the Administration was not there when the plan was hatched to fake the evidence?


They could not make their case WITHOUT the lies.

"Mushroom clouds" over American cities, etc.

"We know that Saddam has sought uranium from Africa"

"We have bullet-proof evidence".
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Well the nicknames are:

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Fitzmas of course

Cronywanza

ect

that little man
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the Libby of Watergate is G. Gordon Liddy
He called my number in NYC a couple of times looking for William F. Buckley, Jr. Apparently I had Buckley's old number.
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