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Old 02-05-2007, 05:05 PM   #1
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Required STD shots worry some parents

AUSTIN, Texas - Some conservatives and parents’ rights groups worry that requiring girls to get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer would condone premarital sex and interfere with the way they raise their children.

By using an executive order that bypassed the Legislature, Republican Gov. Rick Perry — himself a conservative — on Friday avoided such opposition, making Texas the first state to mandate that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the virus.



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So protection = condones?
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:15 PM   #2
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So protection = condones?
Yeah, like sex ed = condones
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:26 PM   #3
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I'm glad they're mandating the vaccination...
make it just like getting vaccines for measles, and the notion that vaccination is like some kind of implicit okay for sex at a young age is completely gone. HPV is transmitted by "skin to skin contact during sex", and condoms aren't so successful at preventing its transmission as it is against other STDs, and (rarely) it can be transmitted via oral sex. Basically, if a guy is infected with HPV, he can give it to his female sexual partner in any kind of contact with her genitals, even far short of intercourse. Lots and lots of people have it, it is easily transmitted, and it is the cause of a lot of cervical cancer.

Seems a no-brainer to require vaccination, especially since when the daughters of even religious conservatives who don't want their kids having sex before marriage (which, btw, seems according to recent research to *increase* risky non-coital sexual behavior, which transmits HPV as surely as coitus does...http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...ex-study_x.htm )
do get married and start having that sanctioned sex they will still be exposed to HPV potentially, unless the parents can vouch for the total virginity of the intended as well. Sounds like a lot of sexual police work, versus one little shot.

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WTF?

I'm considering this vaccine (will ultimately be determined on whether my insurance will pay for it) even though I'm already married and won't get HPV from my husband. You can never be too careful. As long as there are no risks getting the vaccine, why not?
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I didn't even know you could get a vaccine for this. Unless thats just in the US?

Like Liesje said, as long as theres no risks with having the vaccine then why not?
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Here's the CDC info on it, I'm just reading through it myself....

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-vaccine.htm


I knew about it because there was a thread here a while back and there have been TV ad campaigns promoting the vaccine in the US. I'm going to my gyn for a yearly physical this week and was going to ask her about it.
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I think that his ties to Merck and that whole Women in Government thing could be problematic. I don't think the vaccine would promote having sex- especially since kids will have sex anyway (sometimes even unprotected), even with HIV risk, the pregnancy risk, etc. When it comes to something like cervical cancer, moral issues should take a back seat. Obviously we prefer that girls that young and even older don't have sex, but we also have to be realistic. With the help of good communication with their parents and healthy ideas about themselves and sex hopefully most can and will wait until they're much older than 11 or 12-ideally when they are truly ready physically and emotionally. But the ideal doesn't exist often enough.

I don't see anything wrong with parents having other health concerns about this vaccine though, there are risks with every vaccine and we don't know enough about this one yet. They can say no known side effects, but drug companies always say that.
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If they're making it mandatory, will they make it free? Those vaccinations cost $300 each.
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If we call it what it is: A CANCER vaccine, then will these people shut up?
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If they're making it mandatory, will they make it free? Those vaccinations cost $300 each.
This is a good question. Some required vaccines can be obtained at free clinics. I don't know if the required hepatitis one is free though.
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I don't see why there should be any concern over these shots. Conservatives don't want their kids to get cancer, do they?
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Conservatives don't want their kids to get cancer, do they?
Well, we are talking about a cancer that only affects women, aren't we?

Do you suppose that if this were a prostate cancer vaccine (and prostate cancer was contracted the same way), we'd even be discussing how appropriate or expensive it is?

Just asking.
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Do you suppose that if this were a prostate cancer vaccine (and prostate cancer was contracted the same way), we'd even be discussing how appropriate or expensive it is?

Just asking.
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Well, we are talking about a cancer that only affects women, aren't we?

Do you suppose that if this were a prostate cancer vaccine (and prostate cancer was contracted the same way), we'd even be discussing how appropriate or expensive it is?

Just asking.
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If we call it what it is: A CANCER vaccine, then will these people shut up?
When encountering opinions or beliefs that differ from yours, how do you differentiate between those warranting a simple response of "shut up," like this one, and those requiring your more pejorative retort of "shut the f@*k up."

Just wonderin'.
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