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Old 07-26-2005, 08:07 AM   #1
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Repeat Drunk Driving Offenders

I am so tired of stories like this..lock them up and get them off the roads permanently. I can't understand why drunk driving seems to STILL be an acceptable crime in 2005

Infant clings to life after crash tied to repeat offender
Driver is called 'worst nightmare'
By Raja Mishra and John Ellement, Globe Staff | July 26, 2005

QUINCY -- Lawrence J. Robertson had been arrested at least four times for driving while high or drunk. Due to four consecutive license revocations, he has not been legally allowed to drive in Massachusetts since 1983, state officials said.

Yet Quincy police say the 43-year-old Braintree man was behind the wheel Sunday afternoon, stoned on drugs, when he ran a red light and plowed into a sport utility vehicle driven by a pregnant 24-year-old woman, leaving her infant girl, born hours after the bloody crash, clinging to life at a Boston hospital.

With pregnant Katelyn Melia trapped in her overturned SUV, Robertson appeared to pretend he was an innocent bystander at the scene until police determined he was the driver, witnesses said.

The state's registrar of motor vehicles called Robertson ''our worst nightmare": a long-term substance abuser willing to drive without a license. Robertson's case is likely to intensify debate over Melanie's bill, legislation proposed in May that would mandate jail time for such repeat offenders.

''He's the guy that, short of following him around, you can't catch," said Registrar Kimberly Hinden. ''They'll just keep doing it over and over again. Our laws need to be changed. . . . He should have been put in jail."

Robertson's girlfriend, Linda Manna, told police she allowed him to use her car, despite knowing his license had been revoked.

Robertson's car knocked Melia's SUV on its side, sending it skidding into a utility pole. She was 21 hours from the scheduled delivery of her baby. Her 2-year-old son, Ryan Doyle, also in the car, was rescued uninjured. Melia, from Quincy, was rushed to Boston Medical Center, where her daughter was delivered by caesarean section.

Yesterday, Melia was in fair condition, while her daughter remained in critical condition in the neonatal intensive care unit.

''The story line here is the creep: They can do it to you, they can do it to anyone, any time," said a man at Melia's home who identified himself as a close relative. ''Go to the hospital and ask how many times a week does this kind of thing happen. It's sick."

Robertson was arraigned yesterday on two counts of causing serious bodily harm while operating under the influence of drugs, as well as single counts of operating under the influence of drugs, operating a motor vehicle with a revoked license as a habitual traffic offender, marijuana possession, negligent operation of a motor vehicle, and failure to stop at a red light. He is being held on $50,000 bail and is due back in Quincy District Court on Aug. 23. His lawyer refused to comment yesterday.

State records detail Robertson's troubled driving history. He was found guilty of drunken driving four times: in Quincy (1982), in Belmont (1985), in Braintree (1993), and in Abington (1999). Authorities said Robertson had a fifth previous driving violation involving drugs or alcohol, though the violation was not listed in documents provided by the Registry.

In addition, he was caught driving without a license, valid license plates, or insurance four times, according to state records.

On Oct. 2, 2003, the state declared Robertson a habitual traffic offender after a Holbrook incident in which Robertson was caught driving with someone else's plates on his car, adding to his lengthy list of violations. Under the declaration, Robertson would not be eligible to drive until 2007.

Despite these repeated punishments, state officials and activists anguished over a system that failed to keep this troubled driver off the road.

Hinden urged passage of Melanie's bill, named for 13-year-old Melanie Powell of Marshfield who was killed by a repeat drunk driver in 2003. The bill would mandate three months in jail and a three-year license suspension for those caught driving under the influence with a suspended license. Currently, these offenders get 60 additional days of license suspension.

''Guys like Robertson just don't get the message," Hinden said.

The events unfolded at the corner of Copeland and Common streets in Quincy around 1:50 p.m. Sunday. Judith A. McEntire was working behind the counter at the nearby Sly Fox bar, when she heard a loud noise.

McEntire ran outside to help, noticing Melia was pregnant and bleeding heavily. She told a person at the scene, who replied, ''Wow! She's pregnant?" The person was Robertson.

''He was like another passerby," McEntire said.

Even as emergency personnel worked to save the passengers, ''Robertson stood by across the street asking questions as though he was not involved in the accident," according to a Quincy police report.

Robertson eventually identified himself as the driver when questioned by police at the scene.

Robertson told police the 2002 Ford SUV he drove belonged to his girlfriend. Robertson was evasive and could not describe where he was driving or how he ended up colliding with Melia's vehicle, police said. They described him as being ''unsteady on his feet," as having ''bloodshot eyes," and appearing to be ''very nervous."

Police searched Robertson's vehicle, finding a prescription pill bottle with Manna's name on it, but Robertson denied having ingested any of the pills.

Manna later told police that Robertson has been living with her in Braintree for about three months and that Robertson was a drug addict whose ''narcotic of choice" was OxyContin.

She said she let him use her car to go to the store Sunday because he told her he was ill. She thought he was sick with narcotic withdrawal symptoms rather than high when he drove off, according to the police report.

No charges have been filed against Manna.
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There are so many things wrong in this story.... I don't even know where to begin!! (And I mean the actions of people...not the facts themselves.)

As for drunk driving being "acceptable", I don't believe that's the issue. This story points out one thing with our current system: You can take away a person's license/driving privileges, you can even give them jail time for a while. But when they are back out amongst the general public, how is law enforcement to stop them BEFORE they get behind the wheel of someone else's car? (Short of following them 24/7)

That being said, I certainly feel the girlfriend has some share of the blame here. She knows the piece of crap she's living with has an OxyContin problem & yet she allows him to drive her vehicle around. At this point, the biggest penalty she's going to have is that (assuming she carries auto insurance!) she'll owe for the damages to the other driver's car and for the medical expenses resulting from the accident, PLUS the damages to her own car - which will only be paid if she's got collision coverage on her vehicle. Not near enough punishment for her part in this tragedy if you ask me.
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Incredibly, you get arguments like "they will drive their cars anyway" or "they can't live without a driver's license".
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:54 AM   #4
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I have to remind myself not to open these kind of threads because it makes me too sad and angry
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Re: Repeat Drunk Driving Offenders

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Robertson's girlfriend, Linda Manna, told police she allowed him to use her car, despite knowing his license had been revoked.

What.the.fuck.


She deserves whatever her loser boyfriend gets, if not worse.


I cannot believe that some people can be this fucking stupid.
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Nor can I.

And yes, it gets my blood boiling when I hear about people being arrested numerous times for drunk driving offenses. I heard a story once about some guy in...Ohio, I believe it was, who finally got a tough jail sentence after his 400th drunk driving arrest.

What. The. Hell?

And people wonder why the idea of driving makes me nervous.

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I read this in the paper today. I hope the child makes it.
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It's terrible. You can't drive more than a few miles around where I live without seeing a cross or some other memorial on the side of the road. And the majority of them are caused by drunk driving.

I suppose it's hard to enforce the laws, but we need the punishment to be much more severe. Maybe that would dissuade a few people at least from putting innocent peoples' lives in danger.
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I had a conversation w/ my mom and aunt just the other night about drunk driving. We all agreed that drunk driving should be completely unacceptable and think it would be very fair to say anyone arrested for drunk driving loses their license for LIFE. Driving and having a license is a privilege, not a right.
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^I'm all for strengthening the punishment for DUI, but that's too harsh.
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I think we're doing something wrong.

Laws and punishments regarding DUI's should change.

You see how that woman knew he was an addict and still let her drive her car? She should have gotten a fine and 2 or 3 days in jail. Teach the "passerbys" a lesson.
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This useless moron and his mentally deficient girlfriend should both never be allowed to drive again. Send them to jail for a few years too.

What a horrible way for a baby to come into the world. I hope it survives.
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^I'm all for strengthening the punishment for DUI, but that's too harsh.
Bullshit.
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Harsh punishments don't equal lesser DUI's. Sad but true.

You take away someone's license, they still can get into a car and drive. You take away their car, they can buy another one. Put them in jail, they'll get out eventually and go out and drink n drive again. Sad but another true fact.

What these people need to be sentenced to is long-term treatment centres. And I mean long-term and serious treatment. None of this spend 3 days in jail or on ankle bracelet shit, or 20 days in jail or on ankle bracelet shit. And for the third DUI, it's like 90 days in jail or ankle bracelet. Do you think this really helps the problem? No.
This person doesn't have a problem DRIVING. They have a problem DRINKING OR DRUGGING BEFORE or DURING DRIVING.

Fix the problem.
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Counselling/treatment, unfortunately, does not always work any more than a harsh sentence.

The safety issue is as important as the care of the person with the problem. They dont cancel each other out.
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