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Old 11-15-2004, 05:43 PM   #1
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Red States Vs. Blue States

50 years from now and it's civil war who wins? Lay out your best scenario.


caveat This is a fantasy scenario. I'm not advocating the violent overthrow or upheaval of our great nation. Think of it as a Red Dawn kind of thing - NOT REAL. We can throw in alliances with Europe, Islamic extremists, etc...
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hmmmmmm interesting......

well the south lost once before (i'm still heartbroken.........)

We've got NY and CA, though the red states have the military bases (i.e. Norfolk).

However Europe would undoubtedly be on the side of the blue states.

Tough one!
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Red State hands down, reason being that they are a solid base whereas the blues are on the coast and that most of the millitary bases are in the red states. Europe would not be all that in 50 years the demographics will have shifted and the millitary budgets will be going to support millions of pensions.
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Had these states separated back when they had the chance, the red states would now be part of the developing world, along with Mexico and the Caribbean.
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Had these states separated back when they had the chance, the red states would now be part of the developing world, along with Mexico and the Caribbean.
Thats simply not the case, plus if you look at the break down by counties, you'll see that "Blue States" like California, Illinois, Oregan, Washington, Pennsylvania and New York, are far more red than blue, with only a few big cities here and there turning those states over to the democrats.
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All those gun-owners...the red states would definitely have a fighting chance.
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Thats simply not the case, plus if you look at the break down by counties, you'll see that "Blue States" like California, Illinois, Oregan, Washington, Pennsylvania and New York, are far more red than blue, with only a few big cities here and there turning those states over to the democrats.
wtf, does that mean?

people are governed, taxed and represented

not dirt.


with your thinking

Russia is a more legit country because it has what 3 times the land area the U. S. does.
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Thats simply not the case, plus if you look at the break down by counties, you'll see that "Blue States" like California, Illinois, Oregan, Washington, Pennsylvania and New York, are far more red than blue, with only a few big cities here and there turning those states over to the democrats.
So that must mean red states are better than blue states.

You're really not one to appeal to the human side of issues, are you? I don't mean to offend you, and this is really not meant to be a personal attack or anything, but whenever I see posting in this thread or that, your posts are dense in facts and statistics and such, but sometimes it feels like a computer is making the arguement rather than a person. Just my own observation, certainly not an attack. I could be completely wrong anyway, I suppose I'll know soon enough based on what others say.

As for the original question, I don't know. I don't see how anybody could. There are just so many factors now, as it is, and they could ALL change in the course of 50 years. It's a flip of a coin, really. Though I'm tempted to say 'blue' just by virtue of the fact that we have D.C., and you could order anything from there.
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Who has the materials to build a war machine, who has dispersed population centers, who would be unified more easily and build the industrial base up. These would favour the red state coalition in the long run.
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What about the brain trust factor?
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Who has the materials to build a war machine, who has dispersed population centers, who would be unified more easily and build the industrial base up. These would favour the red state coalition in the long run.
Now. That's true RIGHT NOW. I have no way, you have no way, nobody has any way, of knowing what it will be like in 50 years. Tell me, was the political landscape in 1954 significantly different than it is today in 2004?
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wtf, does that mean?

people are governed, taxed and represented

not dirt.


with your thinking

Russia is a more legit country because it has what 3 times the land area the U. S. does.
Well, I suggest you go back and look at the title of the thread because it is in fact about "dirt", red states vs. blue states.

Wouldn't mind talking about the American people though who sent the Democrats and their idea's packing in the recent election.
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which state has the most enlisted serving in iraq?

which state has paid the highest blood debt for W's misadventure?
California.
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Well, I suggest you go back and look at the title of the thread because it is in fact about "dirt", red states vs. blue states.

Wouldn't mind talking about the American people though who sent the Democrats and their idea's packing in the recent election.
So then what you're suggesting is that whoever has the most landspace will win. Whoever is bigger will win.

Ever heard of the term, 'underdog'?
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Wouldn't mind talking about the American people though who sent the Democrats and their idea's packing in the recent election.
by the narrowest margin of any 2nd term president since 1916.
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