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Old 12-09-2005, 11:54 AM   #1
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Rebels' Commemoration Thread

Here we commemorate those rebels and revolutionaries who fought, and in some cases died, that others may be free.


- George Washington, US rebel and freedom fighter

- Wolfe Tone, Irish revolutionary

- Constance Markiewicz, Irish revolutionary hero

- Nelson Mandela, who spent many years in prison.


Feel free to post more examples of rebels you admire.
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Leon Trotzky ???
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:27 PM   #3
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Well if you say so but it wasn't the first name that came into my mind.
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Ronald Reagan

*puts on flame retardant suit*
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Rosa Parks
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Nelson Mandela
Susan B Anthony
Robert Kennedy
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Good list MrsS.
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Ronald Reagan

This is an interesting one. Can you please give me examples of how Reagan was a rebel?
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This is an interesting one. Can you please give me examples of how Reagan was a rebel?
I wanted to ask the same question for a moment. but then I decided it doesn´t interest me at all and you can all continue to celebrate your rebels while I make my own revolution Bob Marley sang "I´m a rebel". He also sang "How long shall they kill our prophets".
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Michael Collins--terrorist, but he was a careful terrorist and he refused to take the fight to civilians.

Lev Trotsky--the man was a brilliant organizer. Everyone gives credit to Lenin, but it's Trotsky who did 1905, 1917 and won the Civil War. Do I find his methods admirable, no, but I still believe the Soviet Union would have taken a much different and possibly more successful path.

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Joan of Arc

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Interesting thing about Russia, AVSgirl, is that both revolutions happened in their (the bolsheviks') absence initially... who knows, if they'd been a little slower it might have gotten away from them.
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This is an interesting one. Can you please give me examples of how Reagan was a rebel?
I'd say more revolutionary than rebel (we could choose either). For those who remember living in the 70's, Reagan brought a new mood, direction, and self esteem to the country - the malaise was gone.
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^ Sounds reasonable enough. Many people in Britain would have felt similarly with regard to Margaret Thatcher.
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For those who remember living in the 70's, Reagan brought a new mood, direction, and self esteem to the country - the malaise was gone.
Yes. The climate of his administration made unabashed greed and religious intolerance virtues instead of vices.

I guess some would call that revolutionary. I call it a step backwards. And I doubt most living in the "Rust Belt" would agree with your "self esteem" notion.

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Interesting thing about Russia, AVSgirl, is that both revolutions happened in their (the bolsheviks') absence initially... who knows, if they'd been a little slower it might have gotten away from them.
Oh yeah, you're completely right. They were all in exile for February 1917, and decided to come back and "direct" the revolution which seemed to be doing just fine on its own.
If the Provisional Government not decided to continue the war, I think they'd all have been left railing on a street corner and disappeared into history. But the situation was left open for them, unfortunately.

And even though it was obvious things were going badly for Kerensky, Lenin kept delaying, delaying, delaying...he wouldn't pick a day, he wouldn't make a move. Trotsky was the one who finally launched it. If they hadn't had him to spark it, another group might have launched the coup, or Kerensky might have gotten his government together. Who knows. It's an interesting thought.
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Yes. The climate of his administration made unabashed greed and religious intolerance virtues instead of vices.

I guess some would call that revolutionary. I call it a step backwards. And I doubt most living in the "Rust Belt" would agree with your "self esteem" notion.
I grew up in the rust belt and lived through the era.

The status quo did change for many, some were not willing to adapt.
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