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Old 03-17-2005, 08:25 PM   #1
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Read This Now.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/te...17soft.html?th

GOD HELP US if this goes through....

...and God forbid, if it does, HOW will we "riot"???

(..there was a time when VCR's could have been declared illegal?!?!? This was taken to the Supreme Court? What would the cultural landscape have looked like since?? The reason we have VCR's at all was because the SUpreme COurt did the right thing.

It's a much more conservative court now, though, than in 1984. And it might be more open to bribes. They're hearing from the Industry, how about US?

Is there a way we could raise a ruckus about this?? The entertainment industry is trying to screw us HONEST citizens over, and the scope of this is so much bigger. If we could present to the Justices just what the implications of this could be, and convince them we are HONEST citizens (the downloading of U2 songs pre-album release nonwithstanding...but what a publicity tool would be lost)...
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:29 PM   #2
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Hey, I get the NYT via school.......

can't get onto that website, but I have a hard copy.
I will read
and then return..........

with comments!

(and cookies.... I am a little hungy.....)

and yes.... I'll share ......
(I guess.....)
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:33 PM   #3
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I don't know how the Supreme Court will rule. It is possible that the Supreme Court will rule narrowly and apply a test to differentiate between devices/programs that have mostly legal usage and devices/programs that are primarily illegal in purpose. If they do choose to rule narrowly, Grokster will probably err on the side of primarily illegal in purpose.

The 500 lb. gorilla in this case that wasn't in the original BetaMAX case is the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which essentially quashes fair use and innovations with digital technology. Remember: the Supreme Court would only be reflecting on laws that were passed.

If the Supreme Court does stifle technical innovations, the best thing we can do is to lobby our Congressmen to repeal the DMCA. It's the only way.

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Old 03-17-2005, 08:33 PM   #4
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Its the article by John Markoff, "As File-Sharing Nears High Court, Net Specialists Worry."


The implications go FAR beyond file-sharing, however. The implications could be the equivalent of the VCR being outlawed in 1984. Think about that. THINK of the effect the VCR had on culture and technology. think of all the technologies that sprang up from that, and how it has affected us. We don't even appreciate the freedoms we now have....

Everyone: get out there and read this article in whatever form by TOMORROW. You must read the article to see just what the implications of this could be. Much of the technology we will be using in the coming months to spread information about the tour, for example, could be immediately wiped out.

The Supreme Court hears the MGM vs. Grokster case on March 29.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:00 PM   #5
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Yeah, and not just because I forgot my paper at school either.

I managed to find my way on to the site where I needed to go (wasn't as hard as I made it the first time.... )



Yeah, I will definitly bring it up in my Public Policy course.....
this is big news.......

I don't want interference to go, I've only known about it since December... And there are too many people here...


But I've only scratched the surface - you're right, this will effect everyone....


It will be really interesting to see how it unfolds.........


(and sorry, but, I ate all the cookies
I'll get some more, but, I'm not making any promises)
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:02 PM   #6
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If the Supreme Court does stifle technical innovations, the best thing we can do is to lobby our Congressmen to repeal the DMCA. It's the only way.

Melon

I hope it doens't come to that, but just the same, I'm going to start spreading the word.......
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I can't access the site, what does the article say?
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I think this link should work for everyone. (without a registration)


http://news.com.com/As+file+sharing+...3-5622668.html
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So...why would the supreme court be more open to bribes?
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:16 PM   #10
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All I got is cookies, and I don't think they would go for that. They are only chips ahoys....


Sorry, I don't mean to make like of this situation.
This is not a time for levity......
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Old 03-19-2005, 10:58 PM   #11
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Weeelll...


Consdering one of the Justices like to go duck hunting with George W Bush..and the Music Industry like many big corporations this Admin is SO Business-friendly, you never know.

I suspect, Melon, that the DMCA is precisely what the Industry will be reminding the Court of. It appears to have been, um, shall we say, ineffective or very loosely enforced. They may tack on added clartifications and say, call for high monetary fines, aka the FCC and TV networks, for indecency fines, to see that informations is properly restrcted.

If we can get a smany people floding the Congress and the Court with emils about this, if we appear to care as much as we do with the Feeding Tube bit, then we will win.
Maybe.
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What does George Bush Jr. have to do with it?
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