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Old 01-11-2005, 10:26 PM   #121
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:05 AM   #122
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None of my single aunts or uncles died alone

We got them Filipino caregivers towards the end

You may want to learn a little Tagalog
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:44 AM   #124
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Sad thing is, he's not the only one. CBS is the most evil network on TV.
No that's reserved for FOX. LOL

Maybe you would be more at home down south than Ohio? Get a grip.
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:49 AM   #125
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they only tried to sway an election

but got caught

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you're giving them waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.

this was about a race to be first, to get breaking news before the other networks.
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:50 AM   #126
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Sad thing is, he's not the only one. CBS is the most evil network on TV.

dude, you really need to switch to decaf.

evil? strong word. being an atheist does not make one evil, not understanding religion and thinking it's silly does not make one evil.
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Old 01-12-2005, 05:34 AM   #127
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CBS is the most evil network on TV.
Last time I checked Andy didn't run CBS he was one little facet, small one at that. And isn't he mostly conservative?
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:36 PM   #128
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More at home down south than OHIO? Are you implying people from the south are ignorant?

I don't believe CBS news is evil, just a bit slanted to the left. And this Rather story is about more than just trying to get the story first, let's be honest. Rather played a part in taking down Nixon and here was another shot at glory.
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More at home down south than OHIO? Are you implying people from the south are ignorant?

no

it is just too bad

that a lot of ones that make it to the front window appear that way
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re: the torture posts

I expect any soldier who was out of line to be held accountable. But after reading the posted article, I still have yet to hear of any physical abuse. Anti-muslim tactics? is that torture? wrapping someone in an Israeli flag? Come on these are big boys, shooting at American soldiers, blowing up their own people.

The 9/11 hijackers engaged in "anti-muslim" behavior of their own free will (strip clubs, etc.) to keep their cover.

Now if these techniques aren't effective in obtaining information, that's another thing. I don't believe gratuitous humiliation serves anyone any good.
And it's absolutely silly to think that we're worse than Saddam because one prisoner says so.

I take issue with Americans in the media who rush to get a story out that they know will undoubtedly harm America in order to bring down a sitting president. These pictures were shocking to see but they looked worse than what actually happened (i.e. no animals were harmed during the filming of this mootion picture) and they caused immense damage to the image of the US.

And for those who wouldn't censor the media, I agree. They should censor themselves. They do it all the time, choosing what to air and what not to air, such as videos of beheadings.
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These pictures were shocking to see but they looked worse than what actually happened (i.e. no animals were harmed during the filming of this mootion picture) and they caused immense damage to the image of the US.

You got exactly backwards

Do a little research

Why be a denier?


It was a lot worse than the pictures

They may be only the tip of the iceberg


Were there actual killings, murders?
They are smart enough not to film that
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Show me torture and I'll condemn it. I have confidence the American and international press will document and publish the worst of the worst. I read alot of news articles, AP, reuters etc. and I've seen forced masturbation which could be construed as torture. I heard a story of a woman being raped, which, if true, is being handled by the military. I heard of one prisoner dying, I forget the circumstances. Of course this is to be condemned and prosecuted. All this other stuff I'm hearing sounds pretty damn humiliating but doesn't sound like torture.

Although I won't deny there will naturally be some criminals in the military, I'm not going to make the assumption that our soldiers are killing people for fun, . I'll let others assume that if they wish.
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No that's reserved for FOX. LOL
It takes quite the liberal to make this comment. Of course that's why you would throw stones at Fox. Nobody has given me any valid reason so far as to why they don't like Alan Colmes. Is he a weak debater? Not liberal enough? Let's hear it.
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Maybe you would be more at home down south than Ohio? Get a grip.
Not sure what you are implying, I'm fine here without all the hurricanes, thank you. At least I'm not talking about leaving my country over the election, like Alec Baldwin, Richard Gere, and (although I enjoy his music quite a bit) Eddie Vedder.

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dude, you really need to switch to decaf.
At times, yes, I may exaggerate a little in order to make a point.

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evil? strong word. being an atheist does not make one evil, not understanding religion and thinking it's silly does not make one evil.
Evil was probably a harsh criticism, but I wasn't referring it to atheists at all, but seeing a network who has done more than any other in attempts to sway an election. I'm glad they got caught with their pants down this time over the fake Bush documents. If not evil, slanted for sure. Look at their Ronald Reagan movie, it's nice that they would map out an obscene, disgusting line about AIDS that was never quoted by Reagan, who was suffering from alzheimer's while they were busy tearing him down. I'm telling you, they're slanted.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:16 PM   #134
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It was a lot worse than the pictures
Deep is right, the administration made this clear quite a while ago. The pictures that weren't published were said to be much worse than the ones that hit the news.
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It takes quite the liberal to make this comment. Of course that's why you would throw stones at Fox. Nobody has given me any valid reason so far as to why they don't like Alan Colmes. Is he a weak debater? Not liberal enough? Let's hear it.
You made the accusations first.
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