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Old 07-12-2007, 03:50 PM   #16
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Hmm. I read all of your answers, I hope you guys are right in saying that they kill the cow first and then boil its skin. I don't quite remember where I read this, and I didn't save the link. If I can find it I will post it.

But yes, eating meat is one thing. Even though I don't support eating meat or wearing leather/fur, I believe that they should at least kill the animals in the most painless way possible, not in a way that just maximizes profits.
It wouldn't maximize profit. They couldn't sell the meat anymore, and the leather isn't that valuable.
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I don't believe they boil them alive... They would if there was any beneficts but that's not the case...
Believe me (I can't speak for all countries though), usually animals are killed in the less painful way, the problem is that they can sense dead because of the feromones. But it's the way they treat them when they're gaining weight that messes with me... In fact it puts me in a bad mood in an instant... Especially with pigs... The way they keep them, they barely have any space to move, they're eyes are red from the high temperatures and bad air, they look so scared... It's really horrible.
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I just heard today that the meat industry boils LIVE cows in order to soften their skin in order to make good leather. They boil the cows, and then slaughter them for beef. It is one thing to produce meat, but boiling live cows, its just very sad.

I am a vegetarian by the way, and I do my absolute best to avoid leather.
Reading this I must say I was nearly moooooved to tears.

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Old 07-12-2007, 08:06 PM   #19
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Lobster anyone?
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:40 PM   #20
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Hmm. I read all of your answers, I hope you guys are right in saying that they kill the cow first and then boil its skin. I don't quite remember where I read this, and I didn't save the link. If I can find it I will post it.

But yes, eating meat is one thing. Even though I don't support eating meat or wearing leather/fur, I believe that they should at least kill the animals in the most painless way possible, not in a way that just maximizes profits.
Keeping consumer costs down is a factor in this too.

We want our Rib Eye, and we don't want to pay through the nose fo rit.

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Oh wow. That's very witty. You must have made it up because I don't think I or anyone has ever heard it before.

If you believe in killing animals for food, that is your business. But to mock those of us who are out to help defenseless animals is just wrong.

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But to mock those of us who are out to help defenseless animals is just wrong.

Can we mock you for posting rumors then?
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And I don't think Dusty Bottoms was trying to be witty. I do believe he's talking about putting a live animal into boiling water.

... which is what happens to lobsters when you wanna eat them. And perfectly relevant to the topic (or rumor) at hand.
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Oh wow. That's very witty. You must have made it up because I don't think I or anyone has ever heard it before.

If you believe in killing animals for food, that is your business. But to mock those of us who are out to help defenseless animals is just wrong.

Don't kid yourself, Infinitum. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.
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Can we mock you for posting rumors then?
Or PETA for scaring the shit out of kids and brainwashing them into calling their parents murderers.
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Or PETA for scaring the shit out of kids and brainwashing them into calling their parents murderers.
Knock it off. Did this come from PETA?
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Knock it off. Did this come from PETA?
Maybe. The source hasn't been given.
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And I don't think Dusty Bottoms was trying to be witty. I do believe he's talking about putting a live animal into boiling water.

... which is what happens to lobsters when you wanna eat them. And perfectly relevant to the topic (or rumor) at hand.
Why do I have an urge for surf'n'turf all of a sudden ?
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Can we mock you for posting rumors then?
No. Because even if what I posted does turn out to be a rumor, I posted it thinking it was real. My intentions are not to lie or spread rumors. Animal cruelty is a topic that effects me so I decided to talk about it in Free Your Mind, simple as that.
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And I don't think Dusty Bottoms was trying to be witty. I do believe he's talking about putting a live animal into boiling water.

... which is what happens to lobsters when you wanna eat them. And perfectly relevant to the topic (or rumor) at hand.
Yes you are right about putting live lobsters into boiling water. I wasn't referring to Dusty Bottoms when I made the witty remark though, I was referring to hawkman who wrote "People for Eating Tasty Animals."

And I think Dusty Bottoms was trying to mock the topic by offering "lobster." Thats why I quoted him in that post also.
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