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Old 07-22-2007, 06:04 PM   #136
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Y'know, someone made the comment a bit back about dogs' ears and tails being removed - granted, I haven't read the entire thread, but a little education for you:
Rottweilers, Dobermans, and Pit Bulls are born with floppy ears and tails. They are removed for show. Yep - just for show.
I am against ear and tail cropping and docking, but it is not/was not done for show.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:08 PM   #137
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I believe the proper term is "teat"
When I ask my translater for the English term of the German term "Euter", it says "udder".
Teat would only be the part used to suck on.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:12 PM   #138
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Stop saying tits.
I'm sorry. I'll use the word "fuck" from now on. That's more appropriate.
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Fuck is not synonymous to tits. So it would be plain wrong.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:17 PM   #140
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I think you missed my point dude.

I'm trying to be rebellious here. Don't ruin the effect.
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Your rebellion is piffle. Give up now.

(Brought to you by the dairy farmers of America.)
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:20 PM   #142
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I do think I bring up a good point.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:39 PM   #143
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No, I think the whole "milk from another species" point is a valid one. Me? I love my dairy, so I can overlook the oddness of it.

But you shrouded your point in a veil of "tits."
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I am against ear and tail cropping and docking, but it is not/was not done for show.
Perhaps not originally, but on dogs that are only being shown or used as pets it is purely for looks.
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Perhaps not originally, but on dogs that are only being shown or used as pets it is purely for looks.
Right, which is why I am opposed to both and am glad it is banned in many countries, because most dogs are just pets. However, the purpose of most dogs is not to be a pet, and most dogs that are shown are also titled in their respective lines of work (or at least they should be!). Dobes have cropped ears and docked tails b/c they are working dogs meant for protection and ringsport so the floppy ears and long tail are dangerous. Erect ears also give the dog a more accurate "cone" for determining the source of a sound. Pointers' tails are so long and thin, if left undocked, they would always be injured while doing fieldwork. I'm less concerned with tail docking than ear cropping, since tail docking is not really a surgery and is done as soon as the pups are born, before they even fully develop their nerves (same for removing dew claws).

I have always wondered how Aussie people defend tail docking by saying the dog's longer hair and low carriage makes it easy for the tail to get snagged during work, when Border Collies to the same jobs at an ever lower carriage and always have tails. But whatever the reasons, they are functional, assuming the dog is performing it's function, and not solely a pet.

I like bushy tails and I like prick ears, so I stick to tailed breeds with naturally erect ears.


Oh, and I also think cow's milk is nasty and won't even eat cereal with milk.
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But you shrouded your point in a veil of "tits."
Sorry. Bad habit of mine.
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Getting back to boiling cows in water. Can you honestly imagine
a) how big the tanks would have to be
b) The costs involved in keeping the tanks boiling
c) How slow a process it would be

All things considered, i think that would make leather on a par with gold cost wise!
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In America, nine times out of ten, it's for show, and for show /only/. Very rarely, you'll run across one that had it done for medical reasons.

I brought it up for a specific reason - cruelty to animals isn't limited to food production. It's sad, but true. I've seen plenty done to domestic animals, yet I see so many people running around protesting food animals being harmed.

I'm also curious as to what people propose to do with these animals after they cease to become money to ranchers and farmers? Realistically speaking, they will not maintain these animals. At best, they'll be turned loose to wreak havoc on ecosystems or just slaughtered. I hesitate to think what the worst may be.
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Getting back to boiling cows in water. Can you honestly imagine
a) how big the tanks would have to be
b) The costs involved in keeping the tanks boiling
c) How slow a process it would be

All things considered, i think that would make leather on a par with gold cost wise!
Keep this info away from Bush, Cheney & their rancher friends. I can see the $ $ in their eyes already.
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:32 AM   #150
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Isn't it cruel that we chop chickens' heads off, tear them limb from limb, deep fry them and eat them?

I don't hear many of you complaining about that.
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