PTC-Tv Is Actively Seeking To Undermine Marriage - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-06-2008, 07:46 AM   #1
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 24,984
Local Time: 03:01 PM
PTC-Tv Is Actively Seeking To Undermine Marriage

Is it doing that or do they just figure that no one wants to watch standard portrayals of marriage and sex? Do people watch tv to escape or to see reflections of their reality (and of course standard isn't everyone's reality)? Is the effect on young viewers really dire?


Study: TV shows sex, but not in marriage
The effect on young viewers is dire, the Parents Television Council contends
The Associated Press
updated 8:29 p.m. ET, Tues., Aug. 5, 2008

LOS ANGELES - Marriage gets little respect on network TV shows that instead revel in the pleasures of extramarital and even kinky sex, according to a study released Tuesday.

The study by the Parents Television Council includes a strongly worded condemnation of prime-time TV, contending it “seems to be actively seeking to undermine marriage by consistently painting it in a negative light.”

Even more troubling, according to the watchdog group, is what it characterized as TV’s recent obsession with what it termed “outre” or bizarre behavior, including partner swapping and pedophilia.

As for references to pornography, sex toys and “kinky” behavior, those are now common on TV, the report said. Visual references to practices such as voyeurism and sadomasochistic sex outnumbered married-sex references by a ratio approaching 3 to 1.

The effect on young viewers is dire, the Parents Television Council contends.

Behavior that once was seen as “fringe, immoral or socially destructive have been given the imprimatur of acceptability by the television industry” and children are absorbing or even imitating it, the report contends.

Parents don’t necessarily have the tools to identify programs they may want to block via the V-chip, according to the study: It says designations such as “S,” signaling sexual content, were applied inconsistently and inaccurately.

ABC, CBS, CW, Fox and NBC, the networks in the study, all declined comment.

James Steyer, CEO of nonprofit Common Sense Media, which helps parents sift through media offerings to decide what’s right for their children, said he couldn’t vouch for the Parents Television Council’s research but lauded the effort.

While the council takes a very traditional view of society and pop culture, “I respect it,” Steyer said Tuesday. “There are millions of Americans that feel this way,” he said.

It’s legitimate to scrutinize TV’s take on marriage and sexuality given its influence on children, Steyer said.

But TV Watch, a nonpartisan group that says individuals and not government should decide what’s seen, fired a volley at the council.

“The Parents Television Council won’t be satisfied with television content until they convince the government to enforce their personal, selective judgments,” Jim Dyke, executive director of TV Watch, said in a statement.

The study analyzed four weeks of scripted shows on the major networks at the start of the 2007-08 season, noting content including depictions of sex; implied sex; discussions on the subject, and visual references to strippers, pornography and other aspects of sexuality.

Among the networks overall, references to adultery outnumbered references to marital sex by 2 to 1. The “family hour” — the first hour of prime-time TV, which draws the most young viewers — contained the highest ratio of references to non-married vs. married sex, the study found.

Shows held up as containing bad examples of TV behavior included “Grey’s Anatomy,” with the report citing a scene with singles Meredith and Derek in bed, and “Boston Legal,” for an exchange about prostitution.

“Desperate Housewives” was singled out for a bedroom scene involving Gabrielle and Carlos, who divorced and then, while in other relationships, had sex.

Some shows have better attitudes toward marriage although they’re not necessarily appropriate for families with young children, said Tim Winter, council president.

The drama “Friday Night Lights” is “better than most in showing positive portrayals of marital relations and intimacy,” he said in a telephone conference, while the sitcom “Everybody Hates Chris” depicts a strong married relationship.
__________________

__________________
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 10:03 AM   #2
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,673
Local Time: 02:01 PM
I thought it was just gays that destroy the sanctity of marriage.
__________________

__________________
BVS is online now  
Old 08-06-2008, 10:23 AM   #3
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,486
Local Time: 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar View Post
I thought it was just gays that destroy the sanctity of marriage.


are you trying to tell me that you can't see the link here?

once you "normalize" sex between two beautiful, supple young men and present their attraction to the other's sculpted pectorals and bursting biceps and snugly fit jeans as if it were natural, then *everything* else becomes normalized.

if sex means more than once a week in the missionary position between two married and showered white people, then sex means EVERYTHING! and by that i mean that it means NOTHING!

see?
__________________
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 10:26 AM   #4
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 24,984
Local Time: 03:01 PM
I'm wondering where the pedophilia is happening, other than on To Catch A Predator. Are kids watching that show?
__________________
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 10:40 AM   #5
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
Pearl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,653
Local Time: 04:01 PM
Those crime dramas - CSI, Law & Order - have pedophilia as the crime of their show quite often. I watch those shows, and its getting quite nauseating for pedophilia being the crime from week to week. We all know it happens, but do we really have to reminded every show?
__________________
Pearl is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 12:15 PM   #6
Refugee
 
bonoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Edmonton, Canada- Charlestown, Ireland
Posts: 1,398
Local Time: 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearl View Post
Those crime dramas - CSI, Law & Order - have pedophilia as the crime of their show quite often. I watch those shows, and its getting quite nauseating for pedophilia being the crime from week to week. We all know it happens, but do we really have to reminded every show?
Do we all know it happens? We might, but i think the average person doesnt really realize just how much it actualy happens. I know what you're saying as far as it gets old wacthing the same premise to a show every week, but showing young people that peadophilia is common and should be outed is a good part of the trend the TV industry has set with it more liberal use of sex.
__________________
bonoman is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 02:47 PM   #7
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,335
Local Time: 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearl View Post
Those crime dramas - CSI, Law & Order - have pedophilia as the crime of their show quite often. I watch those shows, and its getting quite nauseating for pedophilia being the crime from week to week. We all know it happens, but do we really have to reminded every show?
Then stop watching. If everyone who didn't like that topic would stop watching, then maybe the topics would change.
__________________
martha is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 03:24 PM   #8
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,486
Local Time: 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martha View Post
Then stop watching. If everyone who didn't like that topic would stop watching, then maybe the topics would change.


'tis true. TV gives you what it thinks you want.
__________________
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 08-06-2008, 04:08 PM   #9
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
mobvok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: boom clap
Posts: 4,428
Local Time: 12:01 PM
It's important to remember about these advocacy groups, across the political spectrum, that their survival partially depends on being pessimistic to rally members and get attention.

So the Parent's Television Council is never going to look at TV and say "gosh, everything's fine".
__________________
mobvok is offline  
Old 08-07-2008, 02:45 PM   #10
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Strong Badia
Posts: 3,429
Local Time: 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvine511 View Post
'tis true. TV gives you what it thinks you want.
Hardly. If that were true, there would have been a whole bunch of "Raymond" clones, while "Arrested Development" would have been cancelled halfway through its first season, and "Gossip Girl" would hardly merit a mention.

Programming executives want to run the shows that they can brag about at parties.
__________________
nathan1977 is offline  
Old 08-07-2008, 02:49 PM   #11
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 24,984
Local Time: 03:01 PM
Tis also true though that there aren't that many depictions of hot and sexy and happy marriages. Surely those must exist, somewhere. I hope.

And if kids are watching tv to understand what marriage is all about, well that's just wrong on many levels.
__________________
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 08-07-2008, 03:08 PM   #12
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,335
Local Time: 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan1977 View Post
Hardly. If that were true, there would have been a whole bunch of "Raymond" clones, while "Arrested Development" would have been cancelled halfway through its first season, and "Gossip Girl" would hardly merit a mention.

Programming executives want to run the shows that they can brag about at parties.

They have to sell ads to pay for the shows. If people don't watch, they can't sell ads and they ditch the show. It's all about ratings. And people watching. Complaining because a halfway intelligent show doesn't make it on TV is like complaining about there being no decent music on the radio.
__________________
martha is offline  
Old 08-07-2008, 03:19 PM   #13
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,486
Local Time: 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan1977 View Post
Hardly. If that were true, there would have been a whole bunch of "Raymond" clones, while "Arrested Development" would have been cancelled halfway through its first season, and "Gossip Girl" would hardly merit a mention.

Programming executives want to run the shows that they can brag about at parties.


why were there only, what, 14 episodes of "my so-called life"? there was a a "raymond" spin-off.

occasionally, a show can develop a cult following that can translate into sales in other areas -- DVD sales -- and certain shows can do particularly well within specific advertising demos -- ie, "Dawson's Creek" wasn't a big hit overall, but a smash among impressionable teens who haven't yet committed to a brand of toothpaste -- but the bottom line is what speaks most loudly. there's also some desire for critical acclaim, but that shrink in comparison to the dollar.

programming executives want to brag about their ratings at cocktail parties.
__________________
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 08-07-2008, 05:54 PM   #14
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Strong Badia
Posts: 3,429
Local Time: 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvine511 View Post
programming executives want to brag about their ratings at cocktail parties.
I just snorted milk out my nose. You're hilarious. Not in this day and age.

Quote:

there was a a "raymond" spin-off.
No there wasn't.
__________________
nathan1977 is offline  
Old 08-07-2008, 06:41 PM   #15
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
maycocksean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Most Important State in the Union
Posts: 4,882
Local Time: 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan1977 View Post
I just snorted milk out my nose. You're hilarious. Not in this day and age.

And I almost had to roll my eyes (but I resisted)

You surely can't be serious though? Of course it's about the ratings and the money! Sounds like someone's spent too much time in the Heartland and has "lost touch" with what's going on in Hollywood!
__________________

__________________
maycocksean is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com