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Old 08-30-2004, 08:19 PM   #61
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...and then to play the PC "card"

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wow. i didn't think it was humanly possible to fit that many lovely stereotypes into one post.
Indeed.

I can't believe I just read that comment coming from someone who claims to be educated/informed.


Anyway....we do not need a test for voters...we have the COLLEGE ELECTORIAL that votes in our U.S. president into office...no?
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But did you see the SAT requirements to get into the Electoral College???
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Old 08-30-2004, 08:28 PM   #63
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well if only smart people should be allowed to vote, then it isn't very fair that we would allow such morons to run for office.
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But did you see the SAT requirements to get into the Electoral College???

LMAO! You crack me up, nbcrusader!
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Actually statistically speaking, don't more elderly people vote republican?
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Old 08-31-2004, 12:04 AM   #66
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BVS, since when is it a prerequisite to be a great speaker to be President? I am pretty sure a lot of us are not too flowery when it comes to language regardless of education or background. Also, the fact that he has had failures in business counts against him? With that in mind lets throw Harry S Truman into the trashbin of history or even Lincoln.
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BVS, since when is it a prerequisite to be a great speaker to be President? I am pretty sure a lot of us are not too flowery when it comes to language regardless of education or background. Also, the fact that he has had failures in business counts against him? With that in mind lets throw Harry S Truman into the trashbin of history or even Lincoln.
You're not taking my comments in context. I didn't say you have to be a good speaker, but you should at least know how to pronounce words and know what they mean. I know 5th graders who have a better grasp on the language.

I bring up his business failures because there were individuals who said people were blindly voting for Kerry and didn't know his voting record. There were many Republicans who were looking for someone who can handle an economy, make bright business moves, and show leadership yet still voted for Bush who had no history of any of these. So yes it does matter.

Trust me if you or I had gone into a job interview with W's resume and didn't have the last name he did, we wouldn't have gotten the job.
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Old 08-31-2004, 08:11 AM   #68
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There actually used to be literacy tests, but that practice was suspended in 1965 with the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that made supression of vote illegal.

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And how soon we forget, that there were people caught on tape supposably giving out booze and cigarettes for Bush votes in Florida.
Unfortunately, there exists today even more ways people are intimidated or bribed into not voting, or voting for a certain candidate. Here are some examples of race-based targeting of voters.

That article (published by People For the American Way) did state that both parties have contributed in this voter bullying, but the supressor usually changes depending on which way the minority crowds are leaning.

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In recent years, many minority communities have tended to align with the Democratic Party. Over the past two decades, the Republican Party has launched a series of “ballot security” and “voter integrity” initiatives which have minority communities. At least three times, these initiatives were successfully challenged in federal courts as illegal attempts to suppress voter participation based on race.
It just comes down to, if you can't freaking win the election on your own right, then you don't deserve to be the President! Needing to scam voters (between 60,000 and 80,000 in one instance cited in the article) and restrict voters is just absolute BS. If you think people are not informed more, then inform them! Communicate! Educate! But that really isn't the problem: the problem is they aren't voting for who you want them to vote for, and therefore you'll try to supress their voices.

I'll end with one conclusion the article made: robbing voters of their right to vote and to have their vote counted undermines the very foundations of our democratic society.
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i think it is plainly clear that this election is bringing out the best in everyone.

we should license those who want to have sex.
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What Will The Lasting Impression Be??

For all the protests, it seems that any peaceful march is overshadowed by news of the disruptive groups.

Protesters' Encounters With Delegates on the Town Turn Ugly
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A few hundred thousand protesters and less violence than there would be if they were celebrating a sports championship. We'll see how it goes and how much of it gets pinned on Kerry.
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Why would any of it be pinned on Kerry???


Unless all those protesters are his surrogates...



It seems as if the protesters are now just part of the dance, something to generate a picture on the news, with little done to discuss the issues (like we can do that anymore.....)
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If something terrible happened due to the protesters I'd be very surprised if the GOP didn't pin it on the Democrats generally and Kerry/Edwards specifically. Let's hope we never find out if I'm right.
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a few hundred thousand? sounds a bit much. 120,000 was the number. and the other groups that met yesterday, i guarantee most of them protested the day before....most of them were green party members IMHO
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Ahhh! Then Nader gets blamed...
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