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Old 01-02-2005, 11:11 AM   #46
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Would we not do better to reexamine our own actions?

I know I am constantly reevaluating my opinions
Why would it be "better"?

I would think they are the same thing. I would suggest that most re-evaluate their own actions - it is just a matter of what plub line one uses for the evaluation.
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Old 01-02-2005, 03:33 PM   #47
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By my everyday actions, most people think I'm a pretty good Christian. That makes me smile because I am an agnostic atheist. One co-worker absolutely refuses to believe I'm an atheist. I think that's just fine.

I am not out to deconvert anyone, but when topics are presented to me I don't hesitate to state my opinions. Whether the topic be my favorite foods, what I thought about a movie, gay rights, The Bible, or why I don't believe in anything supernatural.

I guess stating my love for Chinese food could be considered to be proselytical to some, but I don't care I love Chinese food!

I done some proselytizing though, I did write a letter to the editor in support of my favorite candidate for President. I have written my congressman and senators on issues important to me. And my friends would vouch for me being a U2 proselyte!

BTW, is proselytizing supposed to be bad? I thought it was a part of our First Amendment rights, right along side religion.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:46 AM   #48
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By my everyday actions, most people think I'm a pretty good Christian. That makes me smile because I am an agnostic atheist.
Just curious...what is an agnostic atheist?
Aren't they either/or kind of positions?
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Old 01-03-2005, 06:39 PM   #49
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Just curious...what is an agnostic atheist?
Aren't they either/or kind of positions?
Good question...

Many over simplify the meanings of agnostic and atheist. A gnostic is someone who professes an understanding or knowledge of God, a theist is someone who believes in a God. An agnostic is someone who doesn't profess an understanding or knowledge of God, and an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a God.

An agnostic can be a theist, atheist or indifferent.

Basically, I don't see enough strong evidence in our world that an all knowing, all powerful, all loving being is real, and I have no beliefs in any gods. That's what an agnostic atheist is.
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To an, for lack of better word outsider, it may not seem like a difference but there really is. The issues that unforetunatly seem to divide the two are huge...
The differences of fundamental theology between Catholics and Protestants are relatively slight

The Northern Ireland divisions in my opinion are no longer principally about religion but about two communities who want to impose their will on each other. Some religious leaders may have fanned the flames for their own ends but in my opinion the key problem is not religion.
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To my knowledge I haven't done it on the subject of religion.

I have had it done to me though, and it makes me very very angry

And no, it didn't change my beliefs--I'm pretty stubborn
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I've always thought that an agnostic is someone who isn't sure there is a God or not, and an atheist is someone who doesn't believe there is a God.
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The differences of fundamental theology between Catholics and Protestants are relatively slight

The Northern Ireland divisions in my opinion are no longer principally about religion but about two communities who want to impose their will on each other. Some religious leaders may have fanned the flames for their own ends but in my opinion the key problem is not religion.
I agree...I've never seen huge differences between the two. I think people just like to think there are big differences, as having big differences justifies their choice. And to be honest, the bigwigs in all religions want their religion to be "the one" so they really can't market it as "the same as all the others with some stylistic differences." That just wouldn't have the same appeal.
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