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Old 09-18-2004, 07:01 AM   #1
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Propagation of religion

Well I am against "propagation of religion" because **I think all religons are based on stories which has not proven to be true, has irrational beliefs which are not correct ( like grow long hairs, grow half moustache...or something or the other). Mind you I am for "long hairs for fashion" or "half moustache for style". But keeping such things just because someone told them - I find it strange . I try to understand why they do so. The only answer I can think of is because they have been forced to do it , they start liking it.. to the extent that they themselves start endorsing such irrational activities - thats pyschology may be.

And the fanatics demand they be provided with special allowance to do something because its in their religion - why not allow the same for Fashion.

But I think I am digressing. The point I am trying to make it. Conversion generally indicates fanaticism. Converts are more likely to a terrorist than a non-convert. I had read an article about it. Dont have the link right now.

Also Propagation means that you are allowed to advertise unproven things. That I think is not correct.

Also there are many instances when the converts are offered special treatment by organisations. This is clearing luring.

If there is to be any conversion, it should be by a person going to any religious institution to seek conversion..rather than religious organisation chasing people for conversion.

So here is where i stand

Pratice - but dont expect special favors from the secular GOVT

Propagation - only within religious institutions , dont chase people anywhere else - like schools, roads, jungles, caves - that means if someone wants to know, he or she will visit your religious institutions..dont drop in their house or anywhere else to explain how good your religion is or offer help instead of conversion.. Dont paste your advertisements anywhere else
( because **)

Conversion - The to-be convert should explicit ask for it.

Where do you stand ?

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Are you saying you don't like people going door to door like the Witnesses and Mormons, is that it? I want to know before I comment.
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Are you saying you don't like people going door to door like the Witnesses and Mormons, is that it? I want to know before I comment.
I have no idea what Witnesses and Mormons are and what they do.

Do they go door-to-door and try to convert people ? If they do so, that is a wrong thing ( according to me and shouldnt be allowed).

Even if they do so, I wont dislike them - I would feel a bit sorry for them because in my opinion they are misguided.

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I have no idea what Witnesses and Mormons are and what they do.

Do they go door-to-door and try to convert people ? If they do so, that is a wrong thing ( according to me and shouldnt be allowed).

Even if they do so, I wont dislike them - I would feel a bit sorry for them because in my opinion they are misguided.

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Yes they do. I have an aunt who is a Jehovoh's witness and they do send people door to door. In this area, they hang around in parking lots too, bugging people getting in and out of cars. They hand you booklets for which a donation is expected, even if not asked for. The Mormons have a program where every young man ages 18-21 must do 2 years 'missionary' service. They are frequently seen on bikes all over the country, 2 by 2, always in white shirts and black pants. They are sent into neighborhoods and they openly ask to be invited into your home to 'share their message.' It's not only the US because some I have talked to told tales of being in England, Finland, or other countries.
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Yes they do. I have an aunt who is a Jehovoh's witness and they do send people door to door. In this area, they hang around in parking lots too, bugging people getting in and out of cars. They hand you booklets for which a donation is expected, even if not asked for. The Mormons have a program where every young man ages 18-21 must do 2 years 'missionary' service. They are frequently seen on bikes all over the country, 2 by 2, always in white shirts and black pants. They are sent into neighborhoods and they openly ask to be invited into your home to 'share their message.' It's not only the US because some I have talked to told tales of being in England, Finland, or other countries.
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Is that the kind of thing you're talking about though?
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Is that the kind of thing you're talking about though?
Yes... such things shouldnt be allowed, according to me.. Why bug people ? Tell me !!
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It's apparently like an illness, they "want to cure you"

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Exactly.

It's a pre-emptive strike, coming to you to heal your "sickness" of sin before it's too late and you're beyond salvation.

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Okay now I'll pass my opinion at the risk of getting bashed, but hey, they'd have to get you first, right?

No, I do not believe anyone should 'bug' people. I believe in most cases this turns people off and drives them away rather than pulling them in, and the only ones who even give them the time of day are doing so out of guilt rather than anything greater. I believe that everyone will or will not come to their own conclusions in time, when and if moved, and pushing them doesn't help.

I realize that in the Bible it says to go forth into the world and spread the message, and that's how they justify it. However, that was 2000 years ago, and back then no one outside the middle east knew of the religions. Now, after all this time, with all our media, and as big as it's gotten, everyone already knows, and whether or not they accept it is up to them. The info is there. The message has been spread.

I also think it's arrogant of people to go into remote places and tell people their religion is wrong and you must convert or go to hell. This has been happening for many years in many places. They can give them the info and leave it at that, let them know, then leave them to decide. No pressure or threats.

I hate to say this, and this is what I'm really going to get flamed for, but I think a lot of modern day 'missionaries' are, well, I don't know how to say it. A lot of churches I've seen sponsor these people, some of them in the unholy godlessness of places like Germany and Switzerland (sarcasm) Come on, those places are well versed in Christianity! There was one couple who came to speak who had been 'witnessing' on a Caribbean island. They told of having servants such as a maid, a cook, a gardener, even a hairdresser! The story they told was of the hardship they suffered when the husband cut the wife's hair wrong while the hairdresser was gone for awhile! Boo hoo! They sounded like spoiled rich people instead of the stereotypical poor and struggling missionary suffering to bring the message to the world as ones in the past. They tried to cover it up, saying they needed all these servants because it freed up their time to go witnessing to more voodoo practitioners. But they even told of how most of their days are spent driving ATV's on the beach! I'm sorry, but I think there is a whole culture out there of these couples, some with kids, being sponsored by churches all over the US (even if each church only gives $50 a month, if 300 churches sponsor you that's more than a living!) and are basically using it to live off people's guilt and using God to advance themselves more than anything else. Okay, so I shouldn't tar them all with the same brush, surely somewhere there are ones who aren't like that, but sadly I think it's all too common. You can see their smiling faces on the church bulliten boards and hear the preacher speak of sponsoring them. I think in some cases it has become a racket in the Lord's name and that isn't right. Rant over.
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