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Old 02-12-2005, 01:29 PM   #46
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bsp77 - I'm not sure what perspective you're coming from, but just to point out that Douglas Adams was not only an atheist, but a radical atheist to use his own phrase.
Actually now that I think of it Adams wasn't an atheist when he wrote the Hitchhikers series. I think he was an agnostic then but became an atheist in his early thirties. He was a committed Christian in his teens. Anyway, this is a bit off topic, never mind.

(Edited to correct misspelling)
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Sorry if it's "offensive." The cross is the most offensive thing, to everyone. It's offensive to me,

the things in my life that I hold on so tightly to

the pull of lust,
cheating on my wife.
my desires and my wants
part of me dies each day
I am giving up much of what I used to just do
whenever I want to
because I have a child
My child requires me, by her very need of me and my attention,



Life is in giving up your rights.

Are you sure you are where you belong?


Most of my married friends find joy and happiness in the wifes and children.

What you have revealed is very dark.

Perhaps your wife and child would be better off if you moved on.
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I do have joy and happiness in my wife and child! I'm just saying that when you get married and have children, there is sacrifice on your part, that's all. You can't just do what you used to do; things change. I'd rather NOT move on from my family, thank you very much. That was pretty dark suggestion, my friend.
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Sorry if it's "offensive." The cross is the most offensive thing, to everyone. It's offensive to me, but I need to die in order to live. So, even though I have to put to death the things in my life that I hold on so tightly to and would rather do if there weren't any consequences, it's not easy. I have to consistently "die" to the pull of lust, or I might just end up cheating on my wife. I am crucified with Christ. All those "dead, lifeless" things in me that take me farther into myself and my desires and my wants have to be killed off for me to truly live. As strange as it sounds, part of me dies each day I experience the joys of parenthood. I am giving up much of what I used to just do whenever I want to because I have a child to care for. My child requires me, by her very need of me and my attention, to die to my self-centeredness.

It comes down to this: both God and Satan want you dead. God wants you to "die" (surrender) and be born again to full life in Him and Satan just wants you to be miserable and then die.

Nothing good is about "rights." Life is in giving up your rights.
You know at first I just didn't think you got it, I didn't think you knew how to debate. But now I realize you knew exactly what you were doing, you were trolling the whole time. It's pretty sad.
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