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Old 07-20-2006, 08:40 PM   #16
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Huffington makes the grope point repeatedly.
Gotcha, I didn't read the article...


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In my work situation, when we're on retreats, there's a certain casualness to the interaction -- massages or quick shoulder rubs are not uncommon when there is massive amounts of stress.
But do they know it's coming?
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:45 PM   #17
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Just so people can see why women still haven't made it as far as we should in this society. Is it any wonder when you have attitudes like this?
If a woman tried to give me a massage I wouldn't complain.
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If a woman tried to give me a massage I wouldn't complain.
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If a woman tried to give me a massage I wouldn't complain.
In case you haven't figured it out, this entire outrage is because it gives the impression that women are weak and cannot handle the same stress as men. It is patronizing and condescending, at best.

If Angela Merkel had been giving Bush an impromptu massage, it would give the impression that he's a moron who cannot keep up with women.

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No one has seen this before done in a non-sexual or hostile manner?
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I'd love to have seen the reaction if Chirac had given Bush an impromptu massage. "How dare he!!! Condescending French fuck!!"
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No one has seen this before done in a non-sexual or hostile manner?
It is generally not behavior one would expect out of politicians, world leaders, or business management/executives.

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No one has seen this before done in a non-sexual or hostile manner?
You do this in office meetings?
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What a Boris Jeltsin thing to do
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You do this in office meetings?
I'm sorry, I missed your answer.

And this thread has nothing to do with me.
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So now it's a sexist thing to do...?
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I'm sorry, I missed your answer.

And this thread has nothing to do with me.
I know it isn't, but I'm trying to figure out why some think it's appropriate.

Can a massage be non-sexual or hostile? Yes.

But the place and the fact that's it nonconsentual plays a HUGE part...
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So now it's a sexist thing to do...?
I'll quote myself:

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But the place and the fact that's it nonconsentual plays a HUGE part...
Yes this action implies sexism.
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I can't believe that even the staunchest Bush apologist wouldn't see how bizarre and inappropriate this behaviour is.
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I know it isn't, but I'm trying to figure out why some think it's appropriate.

Can a massage be non-sexual or hostile? Yes.

But the place and the fact that's it nonconsentual plays a HUGE part...
So we are going to judge Bush and people posting in the thread too?

I see politicians walk into a room full of seated individuals and touch others on the shoulders in a similar way. Many times.
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