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Old 09-22-2004, 07:21 AM   #1
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Pornography

Good or bad..

What are your views on it ?

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Old 09-22-2004, 07:28 AM   #2
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This belongs in Bang & Clatter; it's one of the best albums The Cure has ever made.

Seriously, as long as it involves consenting adults I'm fine with it, even though lots of the women are ugly and the storylines are cheesy. Besides, how would we finance the internet without porn?
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Most ignore the destructive nature of pornography. In many ways, it is worse than addictive drugs. Pornographic images create an impression of relationships that do not translate into reality.
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Pornographic images create an impression of relationships that do not translate into reality.
A bit like Martha Stewart.
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Most ignore the destructive nature of pornography. In many ways, it is worse than addictive drugs. Pornographic images create an impression of relationships that do not translate into reality.
in your view, what characteristics of pornography cause its depiction of relationships to be more destructive than other forms of modern 'entertainment' or maybe 'stimulation' is a better term, say action films or edited war footage?
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I think it is fair to say that most close, personal relationships (spouse, significant other, etc.) includes an element of sex. How such intimate relationships develop between individuals is far more complex that what is depicted in pornography.

Action films or war footage does not focus on aspects of relationships.
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Action films or war footage does not focus on aspects of relationships.
sure they are. obviously significantly different actors but relationships are still depicted.

my point is that, imo, all these things glorify, amplify and compartmentalize acts in a distortionary fashion which seperates these stimulative exhibits from their occurrances present in 'normal' life in varying degrees of frequency (some more enjoyable than others. )
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All types of media include relationships in some form or another. I would suggest that the degree an action film can impact an individuals ability to develop or maintain a relationship is by no means comparable to the degree pornography can impact an individuals ability to develop or maintain a relationship.
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Porn is an industry built on the degradation of women. Virtually every porn star I've ever heard/read interviewed has said they were abused/molested as a child. That tells you all you need to know about porn.
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Action films or war footage does not focus on aspects of relationships.
They show a way of "solving" conflicts which can have horrible consequences (violence solves problems) to some people who watched too much "bad television".
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Porn is an industry built on the degradation of women. Virtually every porn star I've ever heard/read interviewed has said they were abused/molested as a child. That tells you all you need to know about porn.
This might be true but they have to work through those issues some way. Perhaps porn makes them feel empowered through sex whereas it used to make them feel like victims.

And don't forget about gay porn. I don't know a gay man who doesn't love gay porn in what seems to me to be a healthy way.
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If you need to use porn to get off, there must be something missing in the relationship.
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If you need to use porn to get off, there must be something missing in the relationship.
Used on a regular basis or as a substitute for intimacy...probably. IMO, if a stable, loving couple wants to watch porn on occasion, its no different than spicing things up with sex toys or role playing.

As long as its not used in place of real life intimacy, why does it have to mean there is a problem?
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i think its funny thats illegal to pay a woman to have sex with you

but it is legal to pay a woman to have sex with you if you videotape it and sell it
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Used on a regular basis or as a substitute for intimacy...probably. IMO, if a stable, loving couple wants to watch porn on occasion, its no different than spicing things up with sex toys or role playing.

As long as its not used in place of real life intimacy, why does it have to mean there is a problem?


I see it as just an extension of the imagination. I don't really care for porn myself but I understand why other people do.
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