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Old 07-06-2007, 12:13 PM   #1
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Pope urges Professors to Find Solutions to "Crisis of Modernity"

This is from our diocesan newsletter.

Pope Benedict XVI urged university professors to create solutions for the "crisis of modernity" as well as investigate Christianity's contribution to the study of human nature.
"Europe is presently experiencing a certain social instability and diffidence in the face of traditional values", but its history and universalities "have much to contribute to shaping a future of hope", he told participants in the first European meeting of university professors. The participants came to the Vatican to meet the pope June 23.
Representatives from around the world came to Rome for the June 21-24 meeting. "A New Humanism for Europe: The Role of Universities", sponsored by the Council of European Bishops Conferences.
The current cultural shift "is often seen as a challence to the culture of the university and Christianity itself rather than a horizon against which creative solutions can and must be found", Pope Benedict said.
"A false dichotomy between theism and authentic humanism, taken to the extreme of positing an irreconcilable conflict between divine law and human freedom, had led to a situation in which humanity, for all its economic and technical advances, feels deeply threatened", said the pope.
The question of people and modernity "challenged the church to devise effective ways of proclaiming to contemporary culture" the realism of Christianity in the work of Jesus, said the pope.
"Christianity must not be relegated to the world of myth and emotion, but respected for its claim to shed light on the truth about man, to be able to transform men and women spiritually, and thus to enable them to carry out their vocation in history" Pope Benedict said.
The pope said that "knowledge can never be limited to the purely iintellectual realm; it also includes a renewed ability to look at things in a way free of prejudices and preconceptions and to allow ourselves to be amazed at reality, whose truth can be discoverd by uniting understanding with love"
Only God " can prevent us from truncating realtiy at the very moment when it demands ever new and more complex levels of understandinig", he said.
Society needs "the practical aspects of directing research and activity to the promotion of human dignity and to the daunting task of building the civililzation of love", he said. "University professors in particular are called to embody the virtue of intellectual charity recovering their primordial vocation to train future generations not only by imparting knowledge but by the prophetic witness of their own lives".
Pope Benedict also called for a "unity of knowledge" to counter "the tendency of fragmentation and llack of communicability that isi all too often the case in our schools". He said unity of knowledge "can encourage the growth of European unity".
"Only a Europe conscious of its own cultural identity can make a specific contribution to other cultures, while remaining open to the contribution of other peoples", the pope said.
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I think that the Catholic Church has a record that speaks for itself and sheds light on how it's claims for understanding should be treated.

As far as removing God truncates an understanding or appreciation of reality please refer to sig.
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I think this is pretty cool. Essentially, without the Christianity context, it is what people in my field of work have been researching/saying for years. We have a holistic approach to learning, and we believe in educating the "whole" student. Much of that involves allowing them to do some inner-reflection and learn more about them selves, and most especially to look at the world around them with their eyes wide open.

And even now there are studies showing the significance of spiritual development in student development.
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Mia, is it spiritual development, or can it just be moral development?
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can you perhaps elaborate what you consider moral development to be?

i'm thinking that moral development more falls into the category of cognitive development.
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I think that it means that students embracing superstition doesn't represent progression as much as it does regression and that becoming more ethical is not dependent on any sort of spiritual development.
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right. ethical development is cognitive development. spiritual development has more to do with the influences of spiritual and religious communities on one's personal growth. these too, can alter how students see themselves and look at the world, within a spiritual context.
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So significance is neutral, it doesn't imply that spiritual development is a positive or negative force upon any student.
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I think spiritual development can mean growing closer to God. It can also mean moving away from a "religious" life and belief in God.

College is a time when young people are truly on their own for the first time in their lives and they have to decide what role God will/will not play in their lives.
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The intro *does* remind me of the infamous Syllabus of Errors, which pissed off President Lincoln. It denounced "liberalism", in the sense of freedom of speech, as an error.
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Society needs "the practical aspects of directing research and activity to the promotion of human dignity and to the daunting task of building the civililzation of love", he said. "University professors in particular are called to embody the virtue of intellectual charity recovering their primordial vocation to train future generations not only by imparting knowledge but by the prophetic witness of their own lives".

Pope Benedict also called for a "unity of knowledge" to counter "the tendency of fragmentation and llack of communicability that isi all too often the case in our schools".
Uh huh. Well, ending 'publish or perish' and the system of scholars' careers rising or falling on the strength of their research rather than their teaching might be a good place to start; the intense specialization demanded by that is where most of said "fragmentation" comes from. It's not caused by professors coming from different religious backgrounds.
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So significance is neutral, it doesn't imply that spiritual development is a positive or negative force upon any student.
actually no. engagement in spiritual or religious communities and activities has shown to have significant positive influence on a student's psychosocial behavior. check out any journal article by Astin. he's done loads about this topic.
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But is the same not true for any community and network of caring friends and family, just because spirituality provides an obvious link to social structures that are beneficial doesn't mean that it is the thought process (or lack thereof) that makes one psychologically healthy.

I read the 2004 article on the projects page and it came across as promoting a role for broad spirituality to help build community, to tie students education into their lives and enrich their worldview. It wasn't promoting religion per se and it was done in a country with pretty high rates of religious observance. But at the same time it seems to highlight spirituality as somehow enriching peoples lives overall. I guess theres a fine place for studies like that and for adapting education services to meet the demands of students but as an individual (lone worthless data point) I just dont see it.

I mean I think that I have a profound absence of spirituality, I see such pursuits as effectively meaningless tricks produced by the mind to fill in gaps in knowledge and comprehension. I don't see the point in it, and you quite rightly distinguished between spirituality and ethics.

Even if a lie of faith had benefits I still wouldn't or quite possibly couldn't accept it and I don't think that in any way stunts my intellectual development.
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But what the Pope's talking about here seems to be something professors specifically (Catholic university professors, one assumes) should be held accountable for. Actually, I'm pretty sure this is an extension of earlier directives from the Pope, because I know from talking to friends who teach at Notre Dame that a new initiative to preserve the Catholic character of the university is very much an 'issue' there at the moment. They don't seem to have worked it out too well yet though; so far the proposals have mostly had to do with religion-based hiring preferences, and competing vague proposals as to how individual departments should go about defining what 'Catholic character' looks like with regard to their own particular discipline's curricular framework. I don't see how you could implement anything beyond the broadest sorts of overtures at...what exactly? cultivation of 'civic virtues' or some similar?...in a typical public college setting.
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But is the same not true for any community and network of caring friends and family, just because spirituality provides an obvious link to social structures that are beneficial doesn't mean that it is the thought process (or lack thereof) that makes one psychologically healthy.

I read the 2004 article on the projects page and it came across as promoting a role for broad spirituality to help build community, to tie students education into their lives and enrich their worldview. It wasn't promoting religion per se and it was done in a country with pretty high rates of religious observance. But at the same time it seems to highlight spirituality as somehow enriching peoples lives overall. I guess theres a fine place for studies like that and for adapting education services to meet the demands of students but as an individual (lone worthless data point) I just dont see it.

I mean I think that I have a profound absence of spirituality, I see such pursuits as effectively meaningless tricks produced by the mind to fill in gaps in knowledge and comprehension. I don't see the point in it, and you quite rightly distinguished between spirituality and ethics.

Even if a lie of faith had benefits I still wouldn't or quite possibly couldn't accept it and I don't think that in any way stunts my intellectual development.
wow loads of points here. lets see...

yes, you are right. that same can be true for any community of like minded individuals. the idea here is to get students to engage in activities and experiences that can widen their perceptions of the world around them. this in turn helps them develop a better sense of self, and socializes them to diverse populations, and helps them feel like they have an impact, or a role in the community. it is all about empowering the individual and teaching how to respect others.

spirituality or nonspirituality has no effect on intellectual development. like i said, it promotes psychosocial growth, which in essence, is how one perceive's oneself and others/the world around him/herself. this isn't intellect by any means. i mean damn, sometimes i can't even respond to your posts, or i have to reread them many times because you're clearly a genius and it takes me a bit longer to process those big words you say. you have a very eloquent command of the english language to!

so yes, you are right, ANY community that brings the student out into the world promotes psychosocial development. and psychosocial development is not at all related to intellect.
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