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Old 09-26-2006, 11:22 PM   #16
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What about this guy ?

"Egyptian Cleric Safwat Higazi Explains His Fatwa Sanctioning the Killing of Israelis Visiting Egypt"

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1276


or this guy ?

In a parched clearing a few hundred yards on, more than 100 Taliban fighters ranging in age from teenagers to a grandfatherly 55-year-old have assembled to meet their provincial commander, Muhammad Sabir. An imposing man with a long, bushy beard, wearing a brown and green turban and a beige shawl over his shoulders, Sabir inspects his troops, all of them armed with AKs and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. He claims to have some 900 fighters, and says the military and psychological tide is turning in their favor. "One year ago we couldn't have had such a meeting at midnight," says Sabir, who is in his mid-40s and looks forward to living out his life as an anti-American jihadist. "Now we gather in broad daylight. The people know we are returning to power."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14975282...site/newsweek/



and these people carry just how much international clout in comparison to The Pope?

though i bet they and the Pope have one thing in common: they don't like the gays.

but still -- continue to bait Islam!
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:30 PM   #17
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I thought toscano pasted about them in a bid to highlight there are worse people out there to have a problem with - as if to invalidate any problem with the Catholic Church one might have.

Either way, this is ridiculous, isn't it. What is that they say about the best defence being offence or something?
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and these people carry just how much international clout in comparison to The Pope?

though i bet they and the Pope have one thing in common: they don't like the gays.

but still -- continue to bait Islam!
Can't we go after both?

There is a good deal of hypocricy - and it is disgustingly plain where the religious are silent (do they go after clerical fascism killing off gays and non-Christian unbelievers - no). Itn terms of principled and consistent opposition there are those on the left who do so very well.
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Can't we go after both?

There is a good deal of hypocricy - and it is disgustingly plain where the religious are silent (do they go after clerical fascism pushing on rights - no). Itn terms of principled and consistent opposition there are those on the left who do so very well.


of course, but the flaw in logic lies in the equating of these islamist idiots with one of the most important figures in the world.
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There is no single institution governing the faith like there is in Catholicism, the comparison in that respect is unfair but in terms of what is preached and practiced they are representative of a few cases.

The magnitude of what they are stating is also clearly greater than the implied concept that Islam lacks reason in faith that the Pope was making.
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The one constant in all of this is Islam. Then there's the pope. Then there's toscano. 'Nuff said.
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