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Old 08-10-2006, 05:37 PM   #106
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Surely you're joking. It's insanely easy to make it.
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If you have ever had the opportunity to encounter a Federal Air Marshall, you would understand how "armed security" on an aircraft could potentially be a deterent and NOT cause additional problems.

Richard Reid (the shoe-bomber) had to light his shoe and created a bit of a stir on the aircraft (and hence, he was caught). I am not sure what was involved in the plot (how they would connect the items to create the IED), but I imagine that at least one of the 21 would have to fumble and and make a scene.

No security system is perfect.
But I guess my point is, if they had already snuck the bomb on the plane and seated, what's going to deter them from pushing the buttom on the cell phone, camera, or whatever the reported device was going to be?


As far as making it worse. What's to stop someone with 1/2 of Jack Bauer's ability to take away these arms and turn them on to the passengers?
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The flash in a disposable camera has enough electrical power, they apparently believed, to set off the homemade explosive.

There are any number of homemade or modified commercial liquids that would have made effective explosives, with enough energy to damage or destroy a plane.
"Improvised Explosive Device"

There are a number of plastic explosives they could have used.
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"Improvised Explosive Device"

There are a number of plastic explosives they could have used.
Yes, but most that I know of would not detonate from a high-voltage spark.
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But I guess my point is, if they had already snuck the bomb on the plane and seated, what's going to deter them from pushing the buttom on the cell phone, camera, or whatever the reported device was going to be?


As far as making it worse. What's to stop someone with 1/2 of Jack Bauer's ability to take away these arms and turn them on to the passengers?

In order to make your explosive "explosive" - you need to connect the explosive material to a detonator. Fiddling like that could draw some attention.

I am not sure who Jack Bauer is - or anything about his "ability" - but if a Federal Air Marshall is doing something to take over a situation...every passenger on the plane would know. I think with the Marshall...and a plane full of post 9/11 passengers could over power two, four, or five "terrorists."

Like I said, no program is perfect...and I would think they would find success...but ten planes is not realistic.
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In order to make your explosive "explosive" - you need to connect the explosive material to a detonator. Fiddling like that could draw some attention.
Possibly. But from what I've heard, it's pretty simple and quick.


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I am not sure who Jack Bauer is - or anything about his "ability" - but if a Federal Air Marshall is doing something to take over a situation...every passenger on the plane would know. I think with the Marshall...and a plane full of post 9/11 passengers could over power two, four, or five "terrorists."

Like I said, no program is perfect...and I would think they would find success...but ten planes is not realistic.
You need to watch more 24 my man. Jack Bauer took out an undercover Air Marshall took his badge and arm in one blow and it was 20 minutes before anyone knew it. He's a bad ass.
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You need to watch more 24 my man. Jack Bauer took out an undercover Air Marshall took his badge and arm in one blow and it was 20 minutes before anyone knew it. He's a bad ass.
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Did you read the article? The bombs were to be detonated mid-flight. And did they say how many?

Yes it would have been tragic, but no 9/11.



I saw on the news today that there could have been approximately 3,000 people killed if the terrorists had succeeded..
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I saw on the news today that there could have been approximately 3,000 people killed if the terrorists had succeeded..
Yes, yes this has been pointed out but didn't show up until the later in the afternoon. Everything I read this morning made it sound like 2 or 3 planes, not 10.
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here's how to stop terrorists from blowing up and hijacking planes:

1.) you arent allowed to carry ANYTHING on the plane

2.) all luggage is checked

3.) when you get on and after they close the door, but before the plane takes off, they pump the gas that puts you to sleep like when you go into surgery. So everyone except the pilots sleep through the whole fight. Then when the plane is ready to land, the gas flow stops and people wake up on the ground.

i guess it would also help people that are afraid to fly.

Kinda crazy, but i think it'd work.
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:01 PM   #116
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3.) when you get on and after they close the door, but before the plane takes off, they pump the gas that puts you to sleep like when you go into surgery. So everyone except the pilots sleep through the whole fight. Then when the plane is ready to land, the gas flow stops and people wake up on the ground.
Laughing gas on all planes. THIS is an idea I'd vote for.
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Laughing gas on all planes. THIS is an idea I'd vote for.
I say we pump pot. Everyone would too mellow to want to do anything violent, everyone would start to get along, and the restaurant industry would thrive.
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Do it to Air Force One as well.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:20 PM   #119
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You certainly find it easy to hate and dehumanize a group of people you've never met too. It doesn't take a lot of effort.

If you don't like what I'm saying, then tell me. What is the root cause of Islamic terrorism?

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Literalism, seperatism and imperial aspiration.
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here's how to stop terrorists from blowing up and hijacking planes:

1.) you arent allowed to carry ANYTHING on the plane

2.) all luggage is checked

3.) when you get on and after they close the door, but before the plane takes off, they pump the gas that puts you to sleep like when you go into surgery. So everyone except the pilots sleep through the whole fight. Then when the plane is ready to land, the gas flow stops and people wake up on the ground.

i guess it would also help people that are afraid to fly.

Kinda crazy, but i think it'd work.
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