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Old 08-11-2006, 11:59 AM   #151
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A combination of luck and persistence seems to have helped us dodge more than a few bullets, Bojinka just goes to show that this war has been going on well before the public took notice.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:00 PM   #152
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Skepticism is understandable, even for real threats, when we hear about prior deceptions and false "crying wolf"
by government officials. Examples include last week's 9/11 panel concluding that the Pentagon lied to it, Iraq WMD claims, the false facts surrounding the Brazilian shot on the London subway, the false British ricin ring, plastic sheeting and duct tape, etc.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:35 PM   #153
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Your skepticism is very good and I hope that it is completely unwarranted, but keep asking the questions. The time when we don't hear these opinions expressed is the time that they may actually be true.
very good point, even though i don't think this was a hoax..
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:54 PM   #154
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You can do very little damage to a lot of people with a low velocity pistol or a taser, so grabbing a marshalls weapon does not seem to be a threat. Having Air Marshalls has been an effective detterent for El Al, and they profile so non-Jews are medium risk and Muslims are high risk for security. Religious profiling strikes me as legitimate.
You've got to be kidding.

9/11 was implemented with box cutters!

Shooting out a window alone would be a threat.
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:08 PM   #155
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some further information on just how long this investigation was going on and some of the methods used to foil the plot.......The Patriot Act seems like a real good idea now.

Since before last Christmas, it is now learned, MI5 and New Scotland Yard and several other agencies have been working closely together, monitoring Internet sites frequented by known bad actors, identifying everyone who visited those sites, whittling that list down to a specific set of suspicious characters, then tapping phone calls and e-mails and analyzing the back-and-forth message traffic - finally even fitting out the suspects' automobiles and motorbikes with satellite tracking devices, the better to follow them everywhere they went, day in, day out.

In short, great police work, exactly the sort of eavesdropping and data-mining techniques that here in the U.S. get so loudly fussed at by those misguided souls who railed against telephone data-mining by the National Security Agency, and against warrantless eavesdropping on suspicious international calls, and against letting a judge issue a warrant so the law could listen in on any phone that a suspected terrorist chose to use.

Had MI5 not monitored Web traffic and tapped 70 cell phones, quite likely the terror bunch would have smuggled explosives aboard airplanes and blasted several thousand innocents to oblivion. The Brits smartly did just what they had to do. American law enforcement must have all the same weapons. It is well to remember that, in this war, the terrorists need to succeed only once, while we must succeed every time. We cannot afford to lose even one battle.
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So basically you're saying we should wire tap all bad actors?


Do you have a link?
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:27 PM   #157
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So basically you're saying we should wire tap all bad actors?


Do you have a link?
JUST POSTING SOME INFORMATION !

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See, I can't come into FYI because those that disagree w/ my posts, twist everything around.

All I'm saying is that the methods used to track these guys down worked and save a few lives. No, not everyone should be wire tapped. But if that's what you'd like to believe I'm saying than so be it.

Here is the link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-372563c.html
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See, I can't come into FYI because those that disagree w/ my posts, twist everything around.
Wow, your perception of humor isn't very strong.

Do you honestly think I was being serious?

And it's FYM
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:42 PM   #159
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yes, I thought you were serious.

tough to interpret text as opposed to hearing someone.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-372563c.html
Interesting, but it's really just an editorial, it will be interesting to see how much of this comes out in other media outlets.
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I think FYI would be a better name for it
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yes, I thought you were serious.

Well we would have to start out wire tapping 75% of L.A.
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Old 08-11-2006, 01:49 PM   #163
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yes, it is an editorial but my assumption is that this write has some proof. i don't think he/she would fabricate an entire article.

NY Daily News is a big paper.
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I think FYI would be a better name for it
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I just thought of more words for FYI but I can't say it

Actually they mentioned that info Numb in one show I was watching last night, I believe it was MSNBC-so my guess would be it might be accurate as to how they caught them. They didn't mention the cars and motorbikes, but they did mention the computer activity.
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