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Old 03-11-2002, 07:55 AM   #31
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The House of Blues is an excellent atmoshpere place to eat dinner, Oh How I long to go to a concert there, It seems to Be Akroyd's dream, The Metal Stall doors, the Stainless steel tabletops, Pass me some Corn so that I may feed my cravings.

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More than basketball going on in Greenville
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By DAVID HAUGH

Bad enough that the NCAA Tournament Selection committee awarded Notre Dame, the Big East's most consistent team the past two years, a No. 8 seed and likely second-round matchup against Duke. That is like giving someone a burial plot for a birthday present.

Bad enough that the NCAA's new plan of keeping higher-seeded teams closer to home applied to nearly everyone but the Irish, who will take on No. 9 seed Charlotte, which could have its pre-game meal at home if it wanted. Its campus sits as close to Thursday's venue as South Bend does to Chicago.

But the fact that the NCAA shuttled the Irish to Greenville, S.C., of all places, only underscored that Sunday's draw couldn't have gone much worse for the University of Notre Dame.

This isn't a tournament bracket for Notre Dame. It's a noose.

Not because getting to Greenville (pop. 60,000) from South Bend is probably more tricky and more expensive than getting to Greenland.

Not because going to South Carolina only reminds Notre Dame fans that Lou Holtz lives there now instead of in South Bend where he belongs.

But because Greenville will play host to not only eight NCAA teams this weekend but NAACP members protesting the Confederate flag and Confederate flag supporters protesting the protest.

And because Greenville is also home to Bob Jones University, the same notoriously anti-Catholic school that as recently as two years ago called Catholicism a "cult'' on its Web site.

Oh, yeah, this is where America's pre-eminent Catholic university wants to send its men's basketball team and fans for a few days.

Last week Manhattan, this week Mayberry.

The BI-LO Center, where the NCAA games will be played, sits about 10 minutes from the campus of BJU, the school founded in 1927 by a well-known evangelist with reported ties to the Ku Klux Klan. The school even had banned interracial dating up until two years ago when publicity surrounding the 2000 Republican Presidential primary hastened a policy change.

A similarly revised explanation of the school's stance against Catholicism appears on the university Web site.

"We do not hate Catholics,'' it says. "If there are those who charge us with being opposed to the doctrines and theology of the Catholic church, we plead guilty. All religion, including Catholicism, which teaches that salvation is by religious works or church dogma is false. Religion that makes the words of its leader, be he Pope or other, equal with the Word of God is false.''

In other words, Notre Dame fans praying for an Irish victory might not want to make the sign of the cross in public.

Not that it will be easy for Irish supporters to find a Catholic church in which to take solace.

On the same Web site, BJU lists 24 different Baptist churches, two Presbyterian and even one Chinese Bible Church in the area -- but zero Catholic churches. There is one listed if you call directory assistance for Greenville.

A school spokesman didn't return calls Monday to the Tribune in regard to Notre Dame coming to town. But a staff writer for The Collegian, the BJU student newspaper, said not to worry.

"Bob Jones University is based on the Bible and we disagree with Catholics,'' BJU student Elena Hines said. "But as far as I know, we're still kind to them if they're here.''

Kinder than Duke figures to be to the Irish on the basketball court.

If those two teams indeed play each other Saturday afternoon as expected, their buses likely will pass a NAACP rally that has been planned practically since Greenville got approval to host this event.

That, in fact, raises a better question than even why Notre Dame was dispatched to Greenville.

Why did the NCAA pick this site in the first place? Its arena, home of Furman University, seats a little more than 15,000 and the entire population of Greenville County is 300,000. Spring football remains a bigger deal anyway to most South Carolinians.

Besides, there is this Confederate flag flap that, for the most part until now, has been the state's dirty little secret ...

In July 2000, South Carolina legislators buckled to public pressure and agreed to move the flag, considered a symbol of slavery and oppression, from above the Capitol building in Columbia to a monument in front of the Statehouse steps.

That didn't satisfy NAACP officials that wanted the flag removed entirely from the grounds. So a series of protests began, the latest of which is scheduled Friday at the BI-LO Center after a mile-long unity walk.

Not to be outdone, a group called the European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO), which lists its president as David Duke and says it represents ''white civil rights,'' plans a counter-protest across the street.

The EURO's local organizer told the Spartanburg Herald-Journal, though, that nobody should worry about emotions running too high outside the arena. Jack Breeding, the paper reported, apparently told fellow supporters of the flag that "if the NAACP is on one side of the street, you go to the other (and) if you've got a permit for a concealed weapon, leave it in the car.''

"I don't want them carrying so much as a pocketknife,'' Breeding said.

How reassuring for every college basketball fan gearing up for the Greenville experience.

The issue has nothing to do with basketball. Yet it will be impossible for fans, players and coaches to ignore.

"From what we understand, those things have been cleared up in the state of South Carolina, if it hasn't, I guess we'll find out more when we get (there)," Notre Dame coach Mike Brey said. "I know there was some pressure there that maybe this site would not be functioning. Obviously the NCAA and the state of South Carolina cleared those up and we can move on and play basketball.''

Brey is right, sort of. Last August, the NCAA responded to the flag flap by placing a moratorium through 2004 on awarding championship tournaments to South Carolina that are not based on seeding or record. It apparently was too late to put the kibosh on the BI-LO for this tournament.

The Black Coaches Association and the National Association of Basketball Coaches previously had asked the NCAA to move the first round elsewhere.

Anywhere else might have been better for the Notre Dame players, coaches, fans ... everyone, including the team chaplain. Maybe especially him.

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03/13/2002 - Updated 12:43 AM ET


These days, college kids brainier than rest of us

I was in the library at Johns Hopkins University the other day, waiting to interview one of its freshmen who happens to be a whiz at crossword puzzles. Nothing like sitting in a great university library to make one feel stupid.

F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote that the rich were different from you and me. Well, so are college kids these days. They are brighter. Maybe too bright.

Back when a B-plus average, a good haircut and a nicely tanned nose could get you into the National Honor Society, I was considered a bright kid. Today, I'd be considered a slacker.

How they got so bright and I so dumb in such a short period of time, I haven't a clue. I mean, I even know George Sand isn't a guy and Joyce Kilmer is, but that kind of knowledge doesn't seem to impress anyone anymore.

I was determined not to like this crossword puzzle kid, but he turned out to be a nice guy, despite the fact he speaks three languages, majors in something called neuroscience and in his free time composes piano music.

All I could think of was Für Elise, that old war horse of a piano solo by Beethoven known to every kid who was forced to take piano lessons. I can still play the first few bars, because they're nothing but the same notes over and over. After that, it's a blank. Probably a good thing my parents paid only a buck for my every-Tuesday-after-school lessons.

As for languages, I have no ear for them. Zip. So much so that I took six years of Latin because I knew I'd never have to speak it. Actually, I think that shows a certain brilliance. And at least I know Friday is the ides of March.

Et tu, Brute? You bet.

But looking around the reading room the other day got me wondering what was I doing as a college freshman.

I do remember going to class. I figured I owed my parents that. And that little pinochle obsession that eventually led to academic probation didn't come until sophomore year. So that leaves time freshman year to, let's say, solve the world hunger problem. I am ashamed to say I did not.

When USA TODAY announces its All-USA Academic Team every winter, I make it a point never to look at the two-page spread. Inferiority complexes need no fuel. But for some reason last week, I made the mistake of taking a glance at this year's winners.

Next to each scrubbed and glowing face was an even more glowing bio. This year's winners made the triple-tongued, pre-med, piano-playing crossword puzzle czar look like me, a slacker.

One edited a collection of stories about 19th-century Crow warriors, one is on track to complete six majors with two bachelor's and two master's degrees in six years and yet another founded Medical Supplies Mission, which sends supplies to developing countries.

Bless them all. Just don't seat them next to me on a trans-Atlantic flight.

So it did me good to hear from my friend Dan the other day. A member of the All-USA Academic Team a couple of years ago, he graduated from Harvard with honors and is now a Marshall Scholar at Oxford.

But he was telling me he felt stupid of late, a confession I have to admit made my heart sing.

Ignorance loves company, they say. Or is that misery?

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I have not generalized all college students. I have worked in a high school and coach a high school athletics program - the kids I deal with seem smarter than the kids I dealt with when I was that age (and then there are others who fit in perfect). It is a very different world - and people have more access to knowledge than they did when I was in school.

I HAVE targetted you in my statements, Pie Guy, because you tend to post arrogantly - or at least that is how they are read by a number of people. You give off an arrogant aura with your posts (yes, yes, it is the Internet).

Just an FYI - when I graduated college, I thought I knew everything. I was soon taught that that was far rom the case - I ate some humble pie.

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I HAVE targetted you in my statements, Pie Guy, because you tend to post arrogantly -

You seem to think that I myself feel I know everything, We're all entitled to our own opinions.

But I'm glad to see you make the distinction of classifying your judgements in regards to 'posts'. I'm glad we've gotten at least that cleared up.


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You make me laugh Pie Boy!

I'm glad you could put yourself in such a category. No self-esteem problems here!

Enjoy the pie! When is it coming?
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I'm glad you could put yourself in such a category. No self-esteem problems here!
It's a shame that such an article about a general 'trend', If you read my entire post, I made no reference to me specifically, I was just giving evidence to rebuke your claim that College Kids have no idea what's coming to them (Because you do not know me, your slaps on me are a slap on my contemporaries), like we're all Drunk Spring Breakers who spend our time in Cancun waiting to get ambushed when we get out of School.. Hahah.. I love your assumptions.

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Missile Defense Test Successful

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Friday, March 15, 2002; 10:04 PM

WASHINGTON –– An interceptor rocket smashed into a dummy warhead 140 miles over the Pacific Friday night in the fourth successful test of part of the planned U.S. missile defense system, a Pentagon spokeswoman said.

The interceptor, launched from a tiny Pacific island near the equator, destroyed the dummy warhead at 9:41 p.m., Pentagon spokeswoman Cheryl Irwin said.

The test was the sixth of a prototype of a ground-based missile defense system. The interceptor successfully destroyed the dummy warhead in three of the previous five tests, including the most recent one in December. The military is also developing ship-based and other types of anti-missile systems.

The military launched the target missile from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California at 9:11 p.m., Irwin said. The interceptor took off from Meck Island in Kwajalein Atoll at 9:32 p.m. and collided with the dummy warhead in space nine minutes later, she said.

Friday's test was the most complex of its kind so far. The dummy missile jettisoned three balloons to try to fool the interceptor. The most recent test included only one decoy balloon.

The Bush administration is pressing ahead with development of the anti-missile systems, saying the United States needs a defense if a rogue country like North Korea develops and fires long-range missiles at American shores.

President Bush announced last year he was pulling the United States out of the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty, which bans such missile defenses. Russia and some other countries have criticized the move.

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The Latest in the Scandalizing of our Dear University... Our Mother.. Come Help Us...:

March 18, 2002


Dear Notre Dame Students:

As you may know, the Office of Student Affairs has spent the last two years looking closely at alcohol use and abuse at Notre Dame. During the 2000-01 academic year, we gathered 30 focus groups from both the campus and the local community, including students, faculty, administrators, hall staff, parents, alumni, law enforcement and city officials, landlords, and tavern owners. Their varied perspectives provided insight into the many effects of alcohol use and abuse both on our campus and beyond. This year the process has continued as we have talked at greater length with rectors and the University’s officers and trustees. We also have closely analyzed the incidence of alcohol abuse at Notre Dame and compared our experience both with that of other institutions and with campus trends nationally.

The picture that has emerged from our study of this issue is both encouraging and alarming. A significant number of Notre Dame students either do not consume alcohol or consume very moderate amounts. Alcohol is not central to the social lives of these students, and many students are making responsible decisions about alcohol.

At the same time, our study also confirmed the perception that a significant percentage of Notre Dame students engage in abusive drinking. The health consequences of alcohol abuse have been well-documented; the academic and social costs are perhaps less evident, but no less real. A third of Notre Dame students report missing classes because of drinking. Serious and harmful behavioral problems almost always involve alcohol. Students’ lives are often disrupted by intoxicated friends or roommates. Hall staffs spend a disproportionate amount of time and energy addressing behavior related to alcohol. Local residents are disturbed by intoxicated students in their neighborhoods.

Abusive drinking is not unique to Notre Dame, nor is it a “new” problem. Be that as it may, we at Notre Dame cannot overlook or excuse abusive drinking because it is typical among college-age students, is part of a “tradition” or somehow constitutes a “rite of passage.” With national studies showing that nearly half of college students engage in binge drinking, many in higher education consider alcohol abuse to be the single most important health and safety issue on college campuses today.

Over the past 15 years, the University has addressed this issue with some success. The progress we have made in terms of responding to the educational and therapeutic needs of students with regard to alcohol is particularly noteworthy. The Office of Alcohol and Drug Education offers many programs that help students examine their choices about alcohol and educate them on the dangers of alcohol abuse. Through the Counseling Center and local agencies, confidential treatment is available for students concerned about their drinking or who have a serious drinking problem. Our commitment to providing these educational and therapeutic resources is stronger than ever, and we encourage students to take full advantage of them.

We also have addressed the alcohol issue at Notre Dame through the behavioral expectations articulated in the Alcohol Policy. Created in 1984, the Alcohol Policy was based on the report of the University Committee on the Responsible Use of Alcohol. Some modifications were made in 1988 through the work of the University Committee on Whole Health, and the Use and Abuse of Alcohol. The Alcohol Policy has remained largely unchanged since then.

When we began this study and consultation process two years ago, we wanted to know if the campus community supported the Alcohol Policy as currently written, especially since fourteen years had passed since the last major revision. While the consensus from the focus groups basically supported the current policy, a strong sense emerged that modifications were needed to address the most serious and dangerous abuses. With this in mind, we have carefully reviewed the policy and identified specific areas of change.

Today I met with the Alcohol Task Force of the Campus Life Council to outline for them those areas of the Alcohol Policy we intend to modify, and next week I will meet with the entire CLC to discuss these modifications. Because I know that any change to the Alcohol Policy is of great concern to students, I would like to share with you what I told the Alcohol Task Force. Effective in the fall of 2002, the Alcohol Policy will be modified in the following ways:

• Students, regardless of age, will not be allowed to possess or consume “hard” alcohol in undergraduate residence halls.


While one obviously may become intoxicated by consuming any alcoholic beverage, we heard credible evidence that the most serious incidents of intoxication occur when students consume hard alcohol. In general, the students involved in these most serious incidents of intoxication seemed to fall into two categories: those who were inexperienced with hard alcohol, and those who deliberately consumed large quantities in a short period of time, usually in the form of “shots”. Because of the high alcohol content in relation to volume, the abuse of hard alcohol is particularly dangerous.


• Residence hall dances will be held outside of the hall, either at on- or off-campus venues.


The Office of Student Affairs is working with other University departments to give students access to a variety of venues on-campus where halls can host dances.


Dances are an important part of hall life, playing a critical role in building hall unity and spirit. While we hope to preserve the rich traditions associated with these dances, we also wish to eliminate unhealthy patterns that have become part of these events over the years. Many halls across campus simply do not have a common room large enough to host a dance for hall residents and their dates. In part because of these space constraints, the focus of the in-hall event has become not the dance itself but the gatherings in individual rooms. Hall staffs have reported many incidents of problematic behavior during in-hall dances as students traveled back and forth between the dance floor and the private gatherings.


To a certain extent, this change reflects a trend in hall dances that already has begun. According to a recent survey by Student Activities, the number of dances held outside the halls over the past three years has increased steadily; of the 47 hall dances held during the 2001 Fall Semester, 29 took place outside the halls.


• Undergraduate students who are 21 years of age may host tailgate gatherings in a designated parking lot on home football Saturdays, provided that these gatherings are properly registered.


Graduate students may host tailgate gatherings without registering. Rules regarding consumption at tailgate gatherings hosted by alumni, family and friends will follow Indiana law. Students who are not 21 may not host tailgate gatherings where alcohol is served, nor may they possess or consume alcohol at tailgate gatherings hosted by others. In accordance with Indiana law, those who provide alcohol to minors at tailgate gatherings will be penalized, and abusive drinking by anyone, regardless of age, will result in sanctions.


Some confusion has existed in the past about our tailgating policy. By adopting a policy that mirrors Indiana law, with its accompanying privileges and responsibilities, we hope that our expectations of students will be clearer, both for those who are of majority age and those who are underage.


I know that many of you will have questions about these changes. The details of the new policy will be finalized as it is formally drafted, a process that will happen over the next several months. While we anticipate no other substantive changes, during the drafting process we also intend to streamline and reorganize the Alcohol Policy so as to make it easier to read and understand. As in years past, Student Government will have the opportunity to be included in the du Lac revision process.

The issues associated with alcohol abuse are complex, and there are no simple answers. I welcome continued dialogue about this important topic, and I look forward to continuing to work with students, faculty and administrators to create a healthier campus environment. In this, as in all things, Notre Dame’s goal must be “the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ.”

Yours in Notre Dame,

(Rev.) Mark L. Poorman, C.S.C.
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Folks, the argument that poverty causes terrorism is a bogus claim. We all know that Osama bin Laden is a multibillionaire, and many of his supporters are multimillionaires. Also, many of the 9-11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, which is not a poor nation.



There's another one of those fleece America seminars going on in Monterrey, Mexico right now. Leaders at a UN summit drew a direct link between poverty and violence, and said that increased aid to the world's most needy is more urgent than ever in the post-September 11th world. Poor nations warned their rich counterparts that if they want a world free of terrorism, they're going to have to pay, while Castro attacked rich nations for demanding that their poor counterparts meet conditions such as fighting corruption in order to receive aid.

Now I have said this before, and I will say it again. We need an excrement list. If you're on the excrement list, you don't get any foreign aid. We're only going to give aid to countries that say positive things about us and then thank us for receiving the aid. Why should we give foreign aid to a bunch of countries that are going to rip us publicly and undermine our agenda around the world?

We ought to have a list of requirements too. If you're going to receive aid from us, then you have to help us clean up the country that we're giving the aid to. You have to help us clean up the rest of the world in your neighborhood too. It has to work both ways. But then you have people like Castro telling us that we can't put those kinds of conditions on their countries. It doesn't matter that those conditions include weeding out corruption.

What we have here is poor nations around the world threatening us by basically saying, if you don't cough up the jack, then we're going to keep training terrorists to attack you, all underneath the auspices of the UN. Well I say the hell with attitudes like that. Right to the top of the excrement list you go!


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Here's something that happened at school earlier this year. I think it's pretty douchetastic:


-----Original Message-----
From: Gamble, Beverly
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:33 PM
To: stanson@***.edu
Subject: Campus notice

On Monday, January 21, 2002, a male approximately 35-40 years of age,
5^“7^‘, slender build, with dirty blonde hair exposed himself to a student.
This incident took place in the College Center lobby.In order to prevent a
similar incident from happening in the future, I am sending out this alert.

If you see a person fitting this description any where on campus or
the surrounding area, please call Public Safety at Ext. 6111.or telephone the
Annville Police Dept.at ***-****.



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Geez... Every once in a while you'll hear about things like that at School.. on the running tracks.. Sick jackasses..

One of my friends who student teaches, gets a security officer to walk her to her car in the morning.. Gotta love that convenient college parking..

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I just figure I'd post here to echo what I'm sure are all of ya'lls reactions to the absolutely Disgusting and Racistically filled Speech of Halle Berry last night.. I was appalled by this.. Apparently there is more racism in Hollywood than in the 'conventional deep south' or in 'Chicago', And due to the recent condemnings of racism by many others, including myself, I just wanted to throw this out.. Fizzing, I'm sure you were disgusted as well.. that someone could say such things 'on National TV' as opposed to things you've accused me of 'in a public in the corner internet forum'.

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