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Old 10-11-2005, 02:25 PM   #1
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playing the "gender" card ...

so, all you conservatives out there who huff and puff and get upset whenever Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson have the gall to suggest that, yes, race might play a role in American life and how we view reality and perhaps had something to do with the Hurricane Katrina (lack of) response, is the below tantamount to playing the "gender" card and crying sexism?

or is it okay because it's a Republican doing it?



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Laura Bush says sexism possible in Miers criticism By Tabassum Zakaria
Tue Oct 11, 8:47 AM ET



COVINGTON, Louisiana (Reuters) - First lady Laura Bush joined her husband in defending his nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday and said it was possible some critics were being sexist in their opposition to Harriet Miers.

"That's possible, I think that's possible," Mrs. Bush said when asked on NBC's "Today Show" whether criticism that Miers lacked intellectual heft were sexist in nature. She said Miers' accomplishments as a lawyer were a role model to young women.

A week after President George W. Bush nominated Miers for a lifetime appointment to the highest U.S. court, he remained on the defensive against conservative critics within his own Republican Party.

They say Bush missed a chance to pick an experienced judge with clear-cut conservative credentials who would firmly move the court to the right on such social issues as abortion, gay rights and church-state separation.

"Just because she hasn't served on the bench, doesn't mean that she can't be a great Supreme Court judge," said Bush, whose job approval ratings have sagged below 40 percent for the first time ever in recent polls.

Although some conservatives have supported the nomination, others have suggested Bush withdraw it and submit a new name, an appeal the president rejected last week.

Mrs. Bush, who had publicly supported the nomination of a woman to the high court, noted that Miers had been president of the Texas Bar Association.

"I know Harriet well, I know how accomplished she is, I know how many times she's broken the glass ceiling herself. She is a role model for young women around our country," she said.

Some conservatives have also accused Bush of cronyism for nominating a White House insider to the court. They have expressed fears that since not much is known about Miers' views, she could end up being a liberal along the lines of David Souter, who was put on the court by the president's father, former President George Bush.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051011/..._court_bush_dc
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Old 10-11-2005, 02:30 PM   #2
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I don't buy this at all. I'd have exactly the same problems with Miers if she were a man, and I suspect that even the rightiest of the right who are up in arms about her would be the same way.

Their arguments, and I guess mine as well, are that if Bush really was keen on nominating a woman, there are far more qualified women out there...or at least women with more substantial paper trails.

I still hate to rush to judgment on Miers. I'm sure she's a good lawyer and I'd even be willing to concede that she seems like a decent human being. There's just no evidence to suggest that she's an especially gifted and talented legal mind, able to spend the rest of her life wisely and carefully interpreting the Constitution.
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and they were just bashing "the white male" when they questioned the cronism in the M. Wood FEMA appointment.
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I don't see the correlation between the criticism and Miers gender.


But it is interesting to see the GOP toss the gender card back at the Dems.
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I don't see the correlation between the criticism and Miers gender.


"That's possible, I think that's possible," Mrs. Bush said when asked on NBC's "Today Show" whether criticism that Miers lacked intellectual heft were sexist in nature. She said Miers' accomplishments as a lawyer were a role model to young women.




spoken by a very popular woman, Mrs. Bush, on a show that has an vastly female audience.

also, during TS and GMA is when Bush chose to announce his selection of Miers.



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But it is interesting to see the GOP toss the gender card back at the Dems.


oh, i see, so they're just playing them at their own game?

how shrewd ...
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But it is interesting to see the GOP toss the gender card back at the Dems.
Except it's not the Democrats who are opposing her nomination. It's fellow Republicans.

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Some conservatives have also accused Bush of cronyism for nominating a White House insider to the court.

What the hell does it mean when the President says

"I know her heart."?

is this guy just a blathering idiot?
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I don't watch TV news so maybe I've missed something. But I think alot of the criticism of Miers is because she does not have a background of being a judge, plus she's a woman who was Bush's counselor. Any time highly qualified judges are out there and the President does this he's going to catch flak. I'm not surprised that they're coming from his own party.
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What the hell does it mean when the President says

"I know her heart."?

is this guy just a blathering idiot?


it means he's a clairvoyant cardiologist.

it also means he's full of shit.
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They did a great parody skit of this on SNL last w/e. The author of this article is as inarticulate as the Bushes....or the Shrubbery as I refer to them.....the President can PICK his nose but he would CHOOSE a nominee (a good journalist knows the list of words to never use which includes get and pick).

And yes, I would agree he is full of shit.
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it means he's a clairvoyant cardiologist.

it also means he's full of shit.
Or an honest expression about a long-time friend.

But, then you can get him with the crony label!
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Or an honest expression about a long-time friend.

But, then you can get him with the crony label!


he says this garbage all the time.

remember when he looked into putin's eyes and saw his soul?

sorry, but such statements are not fit for public discourse.
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I stopped reading at huff and puff.....Sorry....
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I don't buy this at all. I'd have exactly the same problems with Miers if she were a man, and I suspect that even the rightiest of the right who are up in arms about her would be the same way.

Their arguments, and I guess mine as well, are that if Bush really was keen on nominating a woman, there are far more qualified women out there...or at least women with more substantial paper trails.

I still hate to rush to judgment on Miers. I'm sure she's a good lawyer and I'd even be willing to concede that she seems like a decent human being. There's just no evidence to suggest that she's an especially gifted and talented legal mind, able to spend the rest of her life wisely and carefully interpreting the Constitution.
I stopped reading after this response...I am betting it goes down hill.

I like the nomination because it is an unusual nomination.

I like this nomination because it is pissing off the conservative base.

I like this nomination because it is pissing off the left.

ummmm......hopefully you stopped reading before now!!!!!!
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he says this garbage all the time.

remember when he looked into putin's eyes and saw his soul?

sorry, but such statements are not fit for public discourse.
You're kidding, right? "Not fit for public discourse"??

You might not agree with the statement. You might not understand the statement. But to deem it "unfit" surprises me.
Yet, this is FYM.
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