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Old 10-12-2005, 02:47 AM   #16
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I stopped reading after this response...I am betting it goes down hill.

I like the nomination because it is an unusual nomination.

I like this nomination because it is pissing off the conservative base.

I like this nomination because it is pissing off the left.

ummmm......hopefully you stopped reading before now!!!!!!

so, by this same line of reasoning

you did not like the Roberts nomination.



hopefully you are still reading

i think you know my heart by now.
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Roberts did not matter.....this is the swing vote....and....I am enjoying the chaos.
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I stopped reading after this response...I am betting it goes down hill.

I like the nomination because it is an unusual nomination.

I like this nomination because it is pissing off the conservative base.

I like this nomination because it is pissing off the left.

ummmm......hopefully you stopped reading before now!!!!!!
The moral of the last 8 years is that anybody could run this country, because we have probably the least qualified people in American history running the show.

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You're kidding, right? "Not fit for public discourse"??

You might not agree with the statement. You might not understand the statement. But to deem it "unfit" surprises me.
Yet, this is FYM.


it's simply idiotic. that's why it's not fit for public discourse.

"i know her heart"?

what, the fuck, does he mean by that?

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he means NOTHING!!!!!

is that on her resume? "George Bush knows mah heart!"

it's meaningless.
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I stopped reading at huff and puff.....Sorry....

dread, you threw a fit when people suggested that race might have had something to do with the lack of FEMA response, and accused Democrats and African-American leaders of playing the race card.

which is an argument that can be made. fair enough.

however, when the Republicans turn around and use precisely the same "strategy" in order to start to color her pending confirmation process with the patina of sexism, that the old white male meanies are going to beat up on this little lady.

where's the equal amount of outrage?
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dread, you threw a fit when people suggested that race might have had something to do with the lack of FEMA response, and accused Democrats and African-American leaders of playing the race card.

which is an argument that can be made. fair enough.

however, when the Republicans turn around and use precisely the same "strategy" in order to start to color her pending confirmation process with the patina of sexism, that the old white male meanies are going to beat up on this little lady.

where's the equal amount of outrage?
If you feel that you are respectfully putting a question to me because of my stance on FEMA, then I would have continued to read. However, if my position is all "huff and puff" or however you worded it, I am not going to give it a response. If it is "huff and puff" and that is your characterization of things that I believe to be true then why would you give two shits about how I feel about this?

If you honestly want to hear my position, I will give it. But the tone of the opening line would lead me to think otherwise.

I do not think she is the real nominee. I think it was done to stir the pot, to prepare for the fight for the real nominee. What has everyone been screaming about? QUALIFICATIONS.

The real nominee will have qualifications. And then what will the argument be? Where will public opinion be if he nominates a highly qualified judge?

He is shaping the debate, and the players are taking the bait.

There is my opinion....and it is not about sexism....
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I do not think she is the real nominee. I think it was done to stir the pot, to prepare for the fight for the real nominee. What has everyone been screaming about? QUALIFICATIONS.

The real nominee will have qualifications. And then what will the argument be? Where will public opinion be if he nominates a highly qualified judge?

He is shaping the debate, and the players are taking the bait.

There is my opinion....and it is not about sexism....
I beat you to the punch on that theory, Dread.
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Um.

Has anyone considered the fact that this could be a decoy?

Nominate someone (a woman, no less) whose qualifications are an x quantity, if not especially scary, and get the Dems all riled up over having a candidate with no proven track record.

Rescind the candidtae and put up someone with a nice, long, thorough paper trail...that of a hard-line right-winger.

Brilliant, really.

My opinion is that the Dems should cut their losses.
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If you feel that you are respectfully putting a question to me because of my stance on FEMA, then I would have continued to read. However, if my position is all "huff and puff" or however you worded it, I am not going to give it a response. If it is "huff and puff" and that is your characterization of things that I believe to be true then why would you give two shits about how I feel about this?

There is my opinion....and it is not about sexism....


i think you're misunderstanding the question. but, first, you were not the only person who objected to charges of racism in the FEMA fiasco in the post-Katrina debacle. so, while i certainly had you in mind, this thread was not directly pointed at you. while you might disagree with the characterization of "huff and puff," i think, particularly given other pot-stirring threads that tend to revolve around Sharpton and Jessee Jackson, it isn't an out-of-line characterization. perhaps its inaccurate to apply to your specific posts, but i don't think it was inaccurate in general.

the question i am posing is not about Miers' qualifications. but, rather, the Bush Administration's defense of her qualifications, spearheaded by Laura Bush, by calling out the "sexism card" in the way that some people accuse African-Americans of pulling out the "race card."

is this defense equivalent to the "race card"?
is it okay to do because Republicans are doing it?

etc., etc.
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I beat you to the punch on that theory, Dread.

but it's the right wing who are screaming about qualifications, not the Dems.
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but it's the right wing who are screaming about qualifications, not the Dems.


I thought the right was upset that Miers didn't have a clear right-wing paper trail.
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it's simply idiotic. that's why it's not fit for public discourse.

"i know her heart"?

what, the fuck, does he mean by that?

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he means NOTHING!!!!!

is that on her resume? "George Bush knows mah heart!"

it's meaningless.
So, if you don't understand was GWB means, it means "nothing" and is "idiotic"??
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I beat you to the punch on that theory, Dread.
yes, but....they will be guiding the adjenda towards QUALIFICATIONS.....

and the next candidate will be MORE than qualified......

It is brilliant.
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I think the sexism charges on the part of the administration is equal bullshit......

Why would you think I would not think it bullshit? You have known me long enough I would think, to know that I am not that partisan that I would not speak out when I smell it.

But, I believe your mantra of NEPOTISM is on par with the QUALIFICATIONS....and I believe that the media manipulation by this administration is such that you and I may be educated enough to know the Democrats are not screaming qualifications, but the average JOE on the street is not....and therin lies the problem....

I cannot possibly believe that the people in this administration would have done something so horribly stupid without a purpose. Time will prove me wrong.....
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and the next candidate will be MORE than qualified......

Of course they will, first of all that's not hard, plus GW more than likely won't be making the nomination.
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