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Old 09-27-2006, 01:48 PM   #16
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Yeah, you missed my point.
Where did I "go wrong?"

I very much grasped your point on faulty logic - that's where the opponent has to resort to the hypocrisy card - which can still be credible to some extent.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:11 PM   #17
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I very much grasped your point on faulty logic - that's where the opponent has to resort to the hypocrisy card - which can still be credible to some extent.
I'd like to explain that one...
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I'd like to explain that one...
The other side may have faulty logic as well.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:01 PM   #19
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The other side may have faulty logic as well.
Wow, you've never taken a logics or debate class have you? Hypocricy can't be credible. Hence the definition of hypocricy.
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^ No need to get belittling...
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But those who condemn the pope for speaking out against Islamic Jihad are being hypocritical because they are the same crowd that accuses Pope Pius of aiding and abetting the Nazi party, when in fact, he did the opposite - he saved a lot of European Jews from the horrors of the Holocaust.
If the (present) Pope hadn't chosen a quote that appeared to identify Islam categorically with what he meant to speak out against, he wouldn't be getting all this condemnation. Pius was criticized because he repeatedly declined requests--including from the US, British, Brazilian, Belgian, and Polish governments, as well as his own nuncio in France--to publically speak out against Nazi massacres and deportations, not because he declined to imply that being German in general predisposes one to commit atrocities.
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