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Old 06-04-2005, 10:52 PM   #16
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I think that art education, as in schools, should be funded. But personal art endeavors? Nope.
Is it just art? Or any personal endeavour? What about personal endeavours such as any sport (professional and amatuer), writing, music, languages...any of them?
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I really can't think of any personal endeavor that should be funded by taxes.
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Old 06-04-2005, 11:03 PM   #19
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So you object equally to tax payer funded sport? Just wanting to clarify.

I agree with you both too, BonosSaint and Angela. Pity you got hauled to the principal's office, BS! Did he/she get angry over that?
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I really can't think of any personal endeavor that should be funded by taxes.
celibacy?
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Here's my stance. I don't expect to have to pay for art that I find offensive, and I really don't expect athiests to have to pay for Christian art.
What about laws you find offensive? What about education you find offensive? What about Presidents you find offensive?

Offensive is objective, just like politics and our government.
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The amount of tax money that gets spent on art is miniscule compared to the pork projects we spend on on a regular basis.

Like I said: I believe an investment in art in a community pays back seven-fold in the private sector, if done properly.

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School complained to the paper and my weekly column got "retired." I thnk the principal was sorry (genuinely) he dragged me in. Have to admit I enjoyed one of my first controversial acts so it wasn't painful. I always was mouthy.
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So you object equally to tax payer funded sport? Just wanting to clarify.
Yes, I do.
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The problem is not the art but the interpretation. The beauty of art is that it can be interpreted in an infinite amount of ways.

Piss Christ can be interpreted as a protest of the church.

As a rejection of Christ.

As an analogy that Christ took on the world's sin, with the urine representing sin.

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On Piss-Christ, could it be interpreted as Christianity frequently getting pissed on? A protest, if you like, against the ever increasing railing agasint the church?
Interesting interpretations. Does anyone know if the artist ever expressed his/her point of view on what it stands for?
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Now you're just being silly.
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When art is destroyed, society is destroyed. You may not believe it now, but when it happens you'll understand.
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When art is destroyed, society is destroyed. You may not believe it now, but when it happens you'll understand.

Good art asks the questions society is afraid to ask of iteself.
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What about laws you find offensive? What about education you find offensive? What about Presidents you find offensive?
There are indeed things permitted by law that I find offensive, and education that I find offensive, and there have definitely been presidents I find offensive. The difference is that laws and public education and governemnt MUST be funded by taxes; there is no other way. There is no necessity that I should be forced to pay for someone's personal endeavors in art.
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When art is destroyed, society is destroyed. You may not believe it now, but when it happens you'll understand.
I don't know what makes you think that stopping mandatory tax-funding of personal art projects would "destroy art". People create art every moment of every day without help from the government. I write music with no help from the government.
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