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Old 12-14-2004, 03:08 PM   #76
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how could a jury member convict peterson to death on the basis of his facial expressions and demeanor in court? that's absolutely ridiculous. people express their emotions differently. that peterson showed no outward remorse in court does not imply that he was not remorseful. the jury should weigh the evidence before it, not the mannerisms of the defendant.
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The pregnancy didn't add much to the story. Scott contacting his mistress during the "search" for Lacy added the sex appeal the news wants.
No this murder was headlines before these details were even made public.
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While white victims account for approximately one-half of all murder victims, 80% of all Capital cases involve white victims. Furthermore, as of October 2002, 12 people have been executed where the defendant was white and the murder victim black, compared with 178 black defendants executed for murders with white victims.
Does this even take into account hispanics and other groups - it is not just white and black. I am not surprised by this but I hardly think that it shows that the punishment is racist.
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I'm not touching the abortion thing again, I can't stand the hypocrisy and it upsets me so much I'll only get on another tirade. But I will address this. Classist and racist you say, the system that let OJ Simpson walk? Scott Peterson is neither a minority or a rich or poor person, so that does not apply. Waste of money? More than feeding, housing, and caring for a worthless wife killing fuckwad for the rest of his life, which is likely to be 40 more years or even longer? Terrifying finality? You mean like the one Laci felt on Christmas Eve 2002? Fuck him, he does not deserve any benefits of life. The twisted logic makes me so sick, I'm going to have to leave and tell myself not to click here again.
What twisted logic? How is it twisted to say that, unless it's a choice between your life and theirs, you don't get to decide to end someone's life? It's not about showing him mercy, and it's not about saying killing Laci and Connor was ok. It's about not giving anyone, including the state, the power to kill. Because killing is wrong. Period. So to sum up: I'm against the state killing people because killing people is wrong. Where's the logical problem?

I understand that this is something you feel very strongly about. But there are people on the other side who feel just as strongly and come from just as moral a place as you do.
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how could a jury member convict peterson to death on the basis of his facial expressions and demeanor in court? that's absolutely ridiculous. people express their emotions differently. that peterson showed no outward remorse in court does not imply that he was not remorseful. the jury should weigh the evidence before it, not the mannerisms of the defendant.
He had already been found guilty as a result of weighing the evidence. The evidence played no part in the sentencing phase.


The decision on whether to give him life inprison or death was always a subjective one, hence the staggering number of "character" witnesses.
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Also a lot of what comes into the decision is how cold blooded and premeditated it was. Someone said he used to say years ago if he killed someone he'd dump them in the bay and put food on their head and fingers so the fish would eat off their identifying marks, and that's what happened to Lacy. That didn't help his innocence claim, nor does the fact that, like OJ, there have been no other leads on a 'real' killer.
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Anybody remember the story of the doctor guy, I think his name was Jeffrey McDonald, who claimed hippies busted in the back door and killed his pregnant wife and 2 little girls then ran? He got death but kept appealing the hell out of his case for years until he finally died. At one point someone in an insane asylum claimed to be the hippie he invented for the story. It sounds like another Susan Smith and Charles Stuart fake carjacker tale.

My little girl used to pull that one when she was a toddler, claiming someone ran in the back door, did something, then ran back out so she wouldn't get blamed. A likely story, and if a kid can come up with it not a good one.

I remember another story on the old Unsolved Mysteries. There was a girl who said her husband took her for a ride in the country, then drug her out of the car, took her down a ravine, kicked her and shot her, telling her he'd never get caught because the gun was not registered to him and he was going to tell the cops they had a fight and she got out of the car and when he went back looking for her she was gone. He laughed at how he was going to get away with it and she would be dead. She played dead until he left, then with willpower and all her strength managed to survive for days until police dogs found her. She told her whole story and he went to jail.

There are too many evil people out there who think they can get rid of their wife and get away with it. Like Lacy's mom said, divorce was always an option. So was adoption for Susan Smith's kids. But they don't want the baggage, the child support and/or alimony, they want to be free. They actually believe they can get rid of their 'inconvenient' people and make themselves the grieving victim and go on with a happy life. AND they feel no remorse- until they get caught. Then they are very sorry, for themselves, but not the victim.
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Also a lot of what comes into the decision is how cold blooded and premeditated it was. Someone said he used to say years ago if he killed someone he'd dump them in the bay and put food on their head and fingers so the fish would eat off their identifying marks, and that's what happened to Lacy. That didn't help his innocence claim, nor does the fact that, like OJ, there have been no other leads on a 'real' killer.
Yeah, but you gotta take comments like that with a grain of salt, really. I've said outloud if I ever kill someone, I'd make sure I waxed every hair off my body and then commit the murder naked so there wouldn't be an trace from my clothes.
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Yeah, but you gotta take comments like that with a grain of salt, really. I've said outloud if I ever kill someone, I'd make sure I waxed every hair off my body and then commit the murder naked so there wouldn't be an trace from my clothes.
But in a murder trial, it's a bit too much of a coincidence. Too many details.
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I remember another story on the old Unsolved Mysteries. There was a girl who said her husband took her for a ride in the country, then drug her out of the car, took her down a ravine, kicked her and shot her, telling her he'd never get caught because the gun was not registered to him and he was going to tell the cops they had a fight and she got out of the car and when he went back looking for her she was gone. He laughed at how he was going to get away with it and she would be dead. She played dead until he left, then with willpower and all her strength managed to survive for days until police dogs found her. She told her whole story and he went to jail.

Sounds like that Unsolved Mystery was solved.
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But in a murder trial, it's a bit too much of a coincidence. Too many details.
It is exactly that - too much of a coincidence. The important thing to remember about this whole ordeal is that from a legal standpoint, Scott Peterson was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to death on entirely circumstantial evidence. I don't doubt he did it, but it's quite amazing really.
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I do think this case was popular for quite a few reasons, here we go:

A. Scott Peterson's extramarital affair - which certainly didn't give the jury any reason to think that Scott Peterson was the boy next door. I think it might have pissed off a few female jurors to know about it. Then again, I can't help but think that he may have killed his wife because he didn't want to live with her, and instead, live his life - or at least part of it - with Amber Frey. Sad thing is, she didn't even know Scott was married.

"First of all, I met him on Nov. 20," she told reporters at the time. "When I was introduced, I was told he was not married. Scott told me he wasn't married. We had a romantic relationship. When I discovered he was involved in the Laci Peterson case, I immediately contacted the Modesto Police Department." - Amber Frey

B. Laci was Pregnant - definately got the pro-lifers' attention. Maybe Scott didn't want to raise a child and Laci did? It probably kept going for speed because of the whole election year, and people want to hear news that isn't always exclusively political.

C. Laci was Very Young - she seemed like a fairly attractive girl next door type, who deserved much better than the card she was dealt. Scott also seemed pretty young, and I heard quite a while ago that some women wrote him love notes while he was in the slammer.

D. The Many Faces of Scott Peterson - He changed his looks, dyed his hair, and grew a goate around the time he was considered a suspect. He also took a suspiciously large amount of money with him.

E. It Happened in California - and California gets a lot of press attention. The average nobody on the street knows who their governor is, and so forth.

F. Mark Geragos - one of the most famous lawyers alive. Backed Michael Jackson for a while, and insisted that Peterson was innocent even after the guilty verdict. After the result of this case, I must say, Johnny Cochran is better at making nonsense comments.

I probably left out some points, but I can't think of anything more at the moment. I'm pretty sure I nailed the core, but if I didn't, feel free to correct me.
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It's Official!

Scott gets the chair (okay, a nice drug induced execution)

Judge Agrees on Death Penalty for Peterson

Let the endless appeals begin.....
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Does this give you any satifaction?
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A death sentence in California is a symbolic gesture. Scott Peterson will die of natural causes before he makes it to the death chamber.
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