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Old 03-05-2003, 03:23 PM   #76
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For the record, Im finding your tireless sticking to the chicken argument and the analogy to eating salad to be diminishing the real point of the message of those both for and against what is being discussed on this thread.

that's fine. if that's the only part of my numerous arguments in this thread that you feel the need to focus on, be my guest. i for one am going to attempt to continue this conversation. i feel it was going well and was quite interesting until this moment. from here on, i will avoid your questions/comments and you can feel free to do the same with mine.
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i will avoid your questions/comments and you can feel free to do the same with mine.
Actually I find it very disrespectful when someone asks another to consider what they consider valid points and that person in turn responds in a manner that indicates that they are clearly deflecting or didn't deem the thought worthy of reply.

But that would probably be a topic for another thread.
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what if it isn't their nervous system that makes them valuable to a person? what if it's the fact that they are alive? some people feel this way. what makes their argument less important that peta's?
If they feel this way, they're either going to starve to death or eat only animal products which contributes to the death of more plants than if they ONLY ate plants.

There are a lot of actions that we can't prove are inherently wrong. Where/how is the line drawn?
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newsflash

"deathbear encourages peta to lick his taint"

dumbassholes, comparing the slaughter of animals to the genocide of the jews is absolutely absurd.

im dead set on eating a peta supporter.
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There are a lot of actions that we can't prove are inherently wrong. Where/how is the line drawn?
i think that's the real question. i have no idea what the answer is. i don't think anyone does. we all have really strong opinions that we believe are right but i don't think any of us can prove that our views are inherently right. it's kind of a neverending battle.
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it's kind of a neverending battle.
Like the battle against gingivitis.
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this isnt even worth a debate. if vegetarians or vegans chose to be vegetarians or vegans - great. i wont complain.

but they better not complain when i eat meat, cause theres nothing better than licking, sucking and taking my tongue and rolling it along a thick, long piece of meat.

meat between the buns is also good.

i cant stand peta.
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what i meant to say is that i hate peta.
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Like the battle against gingivitis.
exactly.



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Back to the PETA issue. While I don't agree totally with the holocast analogy, it did have it's points. Especially in relation to Gabriel's posts on the holocostt survivors.

My belief is in the ethical treatment of animals, meaning minimal pain and suffering for animals used for food with a decent (in animal terms) quaility of life, humane treatment of domesticated pets, and protection of wild animals from extinction.

Last summer I was in VA Beach and I would have loved to call PETA. The strip shops had hundreds upon hundreds of baby sharks in jars lining the tops of shelves. Literally hundreds in almost every discount shop we entered. I finally asked a clerk where they came from and they were shark embryo's taken from sharks hunted for these babies. I was sickened and appalled. First why the hell were they hunting so many sharks in a beach area and the number of females needed to provides those embryos had to reach the thousands. This was one beach town. How many up and down the east coast. F**king disgusting.
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My belief is in the ethical treatment of animals, meaning minimal pain and suffering for animals used for food with a decent (in animal terms) quaility of life, humane treatment of domesticated pets, and protection of wild animals from extinction.
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scarlet, the point is peta is comparing their somewhat debatable agenda to the holocaust.

do you know what the holocaust was like, scarletwine? do you think that if you had survived it, and you saw some people who dont believe anyone should use animals for anything capitolizing and attempting to cash in on heart strings, would that not make you upset?

its sickening. if they were honestly interested on making points known to the people about animal rights, they would first try to gain respect from the public. noone cares about the opinion of one who is considered a jackass by all, right?

their reputation is horrible, and this is the worst example yet.

if i need to, i will be happy to gather some holocaust stories to maybe make anyone feel like an idiot for agreeing in principle, theory or in part to any of peta's rediculous hurtful propaganda.
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I didn't say I agreed with their current campaign strategy. I just think they do make legitimate points and if they weren't so radical they could create more positive improvements in the lives of animals.
As to the holocaust, no I've not lost anyone from that tragedy, but I have read lots of survivors stories and seen many pictures. My 9th grade World Cultures class teacher was a spy in WWII and he was able to show movies from the liberation of several camps, that weren't released to the public. Some I think still
haven't been released. I was in no way downplaying that tragedy or actually comparing it to the human suffering. I only commented on how the nazi's fashioned the camps after slaughterhouses.

In the UK McDonalds was found to cause the mistreatment of cows due to the large amount of beef needed for their business, which 99% comes from South America, and the former rainforest.
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do you think that if you had survived it, and you saw some people who dont believe anyone should use animals for anything capitolizing and attempting to cash in on heart strings, would that not make you upset?

This exhibit/idea was endorsed by holocaust survivors.
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This exhibit/idea was endorsed by holocaust survivors.
right, exactly how many of them?

im sure you could even find a jewish nazi if you looked hard enough, thats my point.
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