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Old 12-16-2005, 09:08 AM   #31
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Originally posted by Se7en

just out of genuine curiosity i'd like to see some factual support for this statement.
There is a section in James MacGregor Burns book Soldier of Freedom which is about Roosevlt from 1940 until his death. A very reputable scholarly book. ANyway, on 471-472, Burns is discussing the debate over Lend Lease and public opposition to such a bill which many feared would drag the US into to war in Europe. He writes that "Representatives of the Co,ommunist Party, still slavishly in thrall to the tortured party line that Nazi Germany, as an ally of Moscow since the Molotov-Robbentrop Pact, should not be antagonized."

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Old 12-16-2005, 05:08 PM   #32
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Originally posted by nathan1977
And it was a Republican that signed the Emancipation Proclamation.

Interesting how the times do change...
Times did change. The Republican Party was the "liberal" party until 1870, when Northern Conservatives in the Democratic Party defected to the Republican Party. Northern Liberals, angered by this maneuver, then defected over to the Democratic Party. This is why we have the Southern phenomenon of Republicans sometimes being more liberal than the Democrats in this region. The only reason Southern liberals and conservatives didn't switch parties was because this was the Reconstruction era and nobody wanted anything to do with the treasonous and defeated South.

As such, Abraham Lincoln was a modern Democrat, not a modern Republican. I also laugh when people bring up Teddy Roosevelt, because he was a liberal Republican who ended up creating a third-party in his latter years.


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