Overheard at the Peace Protests - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-22-2004, 12:12 AM   #1
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,881
Local Time: 05:07 PM
Overheard at the Peace Protests












Some of these are not very peaceful protestors......Fight for Communism? Sounds Peaceful.

I love NY even more without the World Trade Center? How full of love are we.

The two guys holding the "Spartacus Youth League Signs" look so very youthful?

yes, support Iraqi resistence....The one that is made of people NOT from Iraq? The Al-Qaeda resistence? how PEACEFUL.

Oh...speaking of Al-Qaeda....let us celebrate the removal of the President of Spain....Let's encourage a bombing in Italy before their elections this year.

And yes...I am certain the CIA and Bush blew up the World Trade Center.

Oh...I forgot...Bush is the AntiChrist and he is working with Osama. I am not even going to post the Anti-Semitic signs that were seen there, at the PEACE rally.



All the photos the press will not show.....thank goodness for digital cameras and the internet.
__________________

__________________
Dreadsox is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 03:00 AM   #2
War Child
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 940
Local Time: 10:07 PM
I'm sure you can find some pretty extreme "drop a nuke on Mecca now" types at a pro-Bush/war rally as well. Check a few random topics at freerepublic.com out. I wouldn't lump every pro-Bushie in with them, and I'd hope no-one would lump everyone who is anti Iraq war in the same group. There are very extreme views on both sides. They also make up a tiny minority on both sides.
That WTC one is f*cking disgusting.
__________________

__________________
TylerDurden is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 03:31 AM   #3
Refugee
 
Danospano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,415
Local Time: 05:07 PM
Taken out of context all those sound bites may seem inappropriate, but that's the nature of media, right? If we heard why they compared Bush to the Nazi regime, we might agree on a majority of their points. Likewise with the comments about fighting for communism.

Let's not be blind to the truth, even if it means that we're proven wrong.

The USA is the devil or the retard cousin to the rest of the world. We are going to get what's coming to us, because we allowed our leaders to determine what's right for the rest of the world; a world that doesn't want us involved.

I love America, but our leaders are screwing up our reputations overseas and to the north and south of our borders.

Preach on
__________________
Danospano is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 05:24 AM   #4
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
DrTeeth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Q continuum
Posts: 4,770
Local Time: 11:07 PM
Re: Overheard at the Peace Protests

Quote:
Originally posted by Dreadsox

Heh, I could actually find myself agreeing with this one even though I might not have used the term war mongers . Other than that, the rest of the signs are disgusting. We all know there are extremist idiots on both sides on the fence. Not really something I would start a thread about.
__________________
DrTeeth is online now  
Old 03-22-2004, 05:34 AM   #5
ONE
love, blood, life
 
FizzingWhizzbees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the choirgirl hotel
Posts: 12,614
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Did you take the pictures yourself, dread? If not could you please tell us the source of them? Thank-you.

I've been on more demos than I can count and I've seen more placards I disagreed with than I remember. I've also seen over a million people who took to the streets to peacefully tell their leaders they opposed an illegal war and the death and destruction it would bring to Iraq. I don't agree with the messages on these placards and I know that the vast majority of anti-war demonstrators don't agree with them either.

Don't try to pretend that those messages were in the majority on Saturday's anti-war demonstrations.
__________________
FizzingWhizzbees is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 06:41 AM   #6
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,881
Local Time: 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by FizzingWhizzbees
Did you take the pictures yourself, dread? If not could you please tell us the source of them? Thank-you.

I've been on more demos than I can count and I've seen more placards I disagreed with than I remember. I've also seen over a million people who took to the streets to peacefully tell their leaders they opposed an illegal war and the death and destruction it would bring to Iraq. I don't agree with the messages on these placards and I know that the vast majority of anti-war demonstrators don't agree with them either.

Don't try to pretend that those messages were in the majority on Saturday's anti-war demonstrations.
I NEVER said they were in the majority. And I have not put them all up. There were many.

I just thought it appropriate to show that there are things not shown in the print media. As Diamond has said in the past, money coming from places I think the average American would not be happy about. I have more pictures to back this up too.

And Fizz, the pics were emailed to me....so no, I did not take them myself. Of course we can derail yet another thread discussing such things if you like.

Finally, I would again POLITELY ask you to stop bringing in issues from other threads. You ask me to move on, yet you continue to make references to it, by my count this is the THIRD thread you are bringing this issue up in. Your PM to me indicated you would like to move on, yet your actions on the board lead me to another belief .

It makes me wonder if you are making an art of putting cute smilies at the end of sentences to attempt to make it look like you are not trying to cause trouble but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I was politie enough not to post them in your Peace picture thread, and would really hope that you would move on
__________________
Dreadsox is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 07:45 AM   #7
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,687
Local Time: 04:07 PM
Well like I've said of recent we're no longer in a world where a picture can tell a thousand words. Who knows the legitimacy of any of these. If they are then some of them are really sad.

Do we have people with f**ked up views in this nation? Absolutely, some hold banners at protest, some write it in a song, some have mainstream radio shows and some run our country.
__________________
BVS is online now  
Old 03-22-2004, 07:48 AM   #8
War Child
 
Leeloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: running to stand still
Posts: 694
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Those are scary. It's extremist like that in any cause that hurt their cause more than help it, like some of the PETA extremists and the bloody fetus throwing prolifers.

I have an elderly relative who is convinced Bush planned and carried out 9-11. I've always thought that opinion was irrational and insane. Then there are those who think he could have prevented it, but how? The only way I see he could have stopped it was to listen to the Hickory reports about the large number of young Arab males in fight course and locked them up. Then he'd be called a racial profiler who denies human rights, so he couldn't actually do that.

So how did he cause it? BTW I'm not even much of a fan, but some of his criticism seems ridiculous. If the logic is that because of Bush they hated us enough to do it, that's a stretch too. They hated us long before they ever heard of Bush. The last time they tried to blow up the twin towers, in 1993, your beloved and perfect Bill Clinton was in office. If they had succeeded, who would have been blamed?
__________________
"the percentage you're paying is too high priced as you're living beyond all your means, and the man in the suit has just bought a new car from the profits he made on your dreams"
Leeloo is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 09:40 AM   #9
ONE
love, blood, life
 
FizzingWhizzbees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the choirgirl hotel
Posts: 12,614
Local Time: 10:07 PM
I'll ignore the rest of your comments dread, because I don't wantt another fight, but I would ask that you don't refer to private conversations in a public forum.

Anyway.

The mainstream print media don't show a lot of things about demonstrations. They didn't show the Spanish police assaulting people who demonstrated outside the Popular Party headquarters last week.

It's rare to see pictures of individual protestors and their placards printed in the mainstream media so I wouldn't say the fact that the pictures you posted weren't printed is an indication of media bias. Indeed, the pictures themselves illustrate a strong bias on the part of the photographer (or if the photographer took more photos than are shown here, on the part of the person who chose only to distribute those pictures) as they include only placards which many would find objectionable and none of the placards with messages which rational people would not find offensive. (Yes, I do think that if you're offended by a placard saying "give peace a chance" or "stop the war" then you're not a rational person. )
__________________
FizzingWhizzbees is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 09:48 AM   #10
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 10:07 PM
These particular signs disgust and sicken me. They are not my views nor are they the views of responsible peace activists. You're always going to have a lunatic fringe element, in any group, period. I know who some of these people are. The Sparticist League is a Marxist-Leninist group that spends more time harrassing other leftists than they do protesting against the government. It would be stupid to pretend that these people don't exist. They do, much to my disgust.
__________________
verte76 is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 09:55 AM   #11
ONE
love, blood, life
 
FizzingWhizzbees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the choirgirl hotel
Posts: 12,614
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by verte76
The Sparticist League is a Marxist-Leninist group that spends more time harrassing other leftists than they do protesting against the government.
Although after several encounters with them, I certainly wouldn't describe them as Marxists -- in general they don't have a clue about Marx and tend to run away as soon as someone questions their interepretation of Marxism.

They have literally about 10 members in this country but you can guarantee you'll always encounter one when you're an anti-war conference or one of the larger demos. Isn't their paper called "Workers' Hammer" or something? When you see them at the end of the day they always seem to have the same number of copies as they did at the beginning...I guess business isn't too good.

The Sparts, as they're unaffectionately known here, are certainly not at all popular in the antiwar movement.
__________________
FizzingWhizzbees is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 10:46 AM   #12
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by FizzingWhizzbees


Although after several encounters with them, I certainly wouldn't describe them as Marxists -- in general they don't have a clue about Marx and tend to run away as soon as someone questions their interepretation of Marxism.

They have literally about 10 members in this country but you can guarantee you'll always encounter one when you're an anti-war conference or one of the larger demos. Isn't their paper called "Workers' Hammer" or something? When you see them at the end of the day they always seem to have the same number of copies as they did at the beginning...I guess business isn't too good.

The Sparts, as they're unaffectionately known here, are certainly not at all popular in the antiwar movement.
Well, OK, they're just a bunch of loonies. I had the misfortune to run into them in Ohio years ago when I went to a big meeting of lefties. They were there harrassing us. I wouldn't remember the name of their paper. From their behavior I certainly wasn't motivated to read the damn thing. No, I don't think anyone likes the Sparts.
__________________
verte76 is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 10:51 AM   #13
War Child
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 613
Local Time: 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Leeloo
So how did he cause it? BTW I'm not even much of a fan, but some of his criticism seems ridiculous. If the logic is that because of Bush they hated us enough to do it, that's a stretch too. They hated us long before they ever heard of Bush. The last time they tried to blow up the twin towers, in 1993, your beloved and perfect Bill Clinton was in office. If they had succeeded, who would have been blamed?

I agree. If you're gonna blame a "bush" for the 9-11 attacks, put the blame on George Bush senior. It was his "false" intentive war in 1991 in the Gulf, his need for his approval rating to rise before an election year, his world oil price monitoring, his deploying of 4000 U.S. troops stationed in Saudia Arabia that began this Al-Q. anger towards the USA in the first place. And it was Clinton who ignored the 1st WTC bombing, the U.S. embasy bombing in Kenya, and the USS Cole bombing at sea. He thought by sending a couple of cruise missiles to Afghanistan he would "solve the problem."

And while I think Dubya's reaction to 9-11 and his diverting attention by making another "false" intentive war in Iraq is completely WRONG and ARROGANT, I don't think he is the one to blame for the 9-11 attacks. No one could have predicted something that horrific. The only thing you can blame Dubya for is his reaction to it....
__________________
tackleberry is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 12:32 PM   #14
you are what you is
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 22,016
Local Time: 11:07 PM
well, I guess those people have the freedom to voice their opinion

most of those signs are sickening though
__________________
“Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.”
~Frank Zappa
Salome is offline  
Old 03-22-2004, 12:35 PM   #15
you are what you is
 
Salome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 22,016
Local Time: 11:07 PM
and even if these are only 0.003% of all the signs there

it's still sick
__________________

__________________
“Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.”
~Frank Zappa
Salome is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com