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Old 08-04-2003, 03:15 PM   #1
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Election by Litigation

From Reuters:

California Governor Seeks Delay in Recall Vote


This is only one of many lawsuits already filed/to be filed in the recall. The recall will make Florida look like a tea party.

Despite all the litigation surrounding the 2000 election, when the votes were all counted, the results did not change.
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Everybody was/ is expecting a statewide vote on October 7, 2003.

I think there is a very good chance Gov. Davis will be recalled.

I don't beleve this court action will be successful.
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Lawyers will be the end of America. It may sound crazy, but you'll see. As a country, we've lost all rationalle and have replaced it lawsuits.
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maybe we should get lawyers declared to be enemy combatants and we can lock them up at GITMO
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but society would probably be better off......
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maybe we should get lawyers declared to be enemy combatants and we can lock them up at GITMO
Now you're onto something.
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Seriously though, the US society has turned into a society of people saying, "what can I get for free?" The work ethic of the post WWII generation is long gone. Lawyers love this because each lawsuit that somebody files, no matter how crazy, frivolous, or nutty, they get PAID! Therefore, it's in the interest of lawyers to have pepole suing each other over everything.

However, as stated earlier, this suing frame of mind have a negative effect on our society. A great example of this was a couple of weeks before 9/11, the actor James Woods was flying first class on one of the routes the hijackers would later use on 9/11. He noticed a few Arab men acting very suspicious on the plane. He alerted the stewardess about the men thinking that she would be able to help. However, her responce was that even though the men are acting suspicious and should be checked out, she couldn't do anything about them because the airline was so afraid of discrimination lawsuits. So there's a DIRECT example of how this sueing society has begun the destruction of America.
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so you're suggesting that instead...people's rights should be trampled on and we should remove their legal recourse to disagree with that. Great.
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so you're suggesting that instead...people's rights should be trampled on and we should remove their legal recourse to disagree with that. Great.
Sula, you do realize that the Arab men that James Woods identified were some of the hijackers from 9/11 on a trial run? His flight was on August 1, 2001 one month before 9/11. By all accounts he was dead on in his interpretation of what the men were up to.

However, I would add that the stewardess and the pilot that Woods spoke to did indeed file their own reports to the FAA about Woods and his thoughts. The airline did nothing at that time.
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Back to the topic at hand.....


During the 2001-2002 Election Cycle the largest contributors of money to the Incumbent Congressional Candidates were Trial Lawyers.

Lawyers/Law Firms
Amount Given $36,342,243
Amount to Democrats 69%
Amount to Republicans 31%


Says something? Yes no?



http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/mems.asp
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The airline did nothing at that time.
Well they should be sued.
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Well they should be sued.
Instead we bail them out!!!!

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so you're suggesting that instead...people's rights should be trampled on and we should remove their legal recourse to disagree with that. Great.
I'm not saying that at all. That would be like me accusing you of saying that you would rather have 3,000 innocent people dead rather than questioning those men strickly because they were Arabs.

But don't you see how crazy this is?! If the airline was not so afriad of being sued for racial discrimination, than they may have followed up on the tip. But instead they did nothing and the rest is history.
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I'm not saying that at all. That would be like me accusing you of saying that you would rather have 3,000 innocent people dead rather than questioning those men strickly because they were Arabs.

But don't you see how crazy this is?! If the airline was not so afriad of being sued for racial discrimination, than they may have followed up on the tip. But instead they did nothing and the rest is history.
The pilot and stewardess DID file papers about Woods claims with the FAA.
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But don't you see how crazy this is?! If the airline was not so afriad of being sued for racial discrimination, than they may have followed up on the tip. But instead they did nothing and the rest is history.
As Dread already said, the airline did take action about this but their action failed to stop what happened on September 11th. I don't see how you can claim that the airline could have prevented it and didn't due to fear of being sued for racial discrimination, given that the action the did take was ignored.

I also don't think it's bad that companies are concerned about racial discrimination. If fear of being sued prevents a company from refusing to hire Black employees or prevents a company from refusing to rent a house to a Muslim, then I'm all in favour of it. I don't see why everyone who might look as though they're Muslim should automatically be under suspicion simply because of the actions of a disgusting minority. It would be like saying all Christians ought to be under suspicion because there are *some* extremists who take violent actions like bombing abortion clinics.
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