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Old 04-06-2002, 08:10 AM   #16
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wow you are bahai?

that test we did was certainly accurate!

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Old 04-06-2002, 04:34 PM   #17
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No evidence for God? Look around you - the evidence is everywhere. Where did this all come from? Don't tell me that it somehow exploded from nothing - seems to me that takes more faith to believe than believing in a creative force.

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Seems to me you need to get a better education. The evidence that the Universe was created from the "big bang" is everywhere. No faith required.

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Seems to me you need to get a better education. The evidence that the Universe was created from the "big bang" is everywhere. No faith required.
I am not talking about whether or not "the big bang" happened. God very well could have used a "big bang". But there is certainly no evidence whatsoever that it occurred by pure happenstance, without any creative force behind it. It is one large logical leap to go from accepting that the big bang may have happened to thinking that it just "happened", with no creative design behind it.
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wow you are bahai?

that test we did was certainly accurate!

yes, it was. Pretty amazing, isn´t it.

Angela and Lilly:
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I thought you were messing. You´re right when you say that your believes are notless relevant simply because its not any officially recognised religion. Religion and believing in God is not always the same thing, although it should.

I think that the most important thing is to learn to except other peoples believes, no matter where you´re from or what your background is.


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Oh, indeed?
What exactly does that entail? I'm not mocking you, I am genuinely interested.

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Seems to me you need to get a better education. The evidence that the Universe was created from the "big bang" is everywhere. No faith required.

I don't think 80sU2isBest needs a better education, at all; in fact, he seems very well educated.

At the end of the day, the question here is the matter of faith, not ignorance or lack of education. 80s has faith, and you don't, its as black and white as that, and not really to do with you being more educated than 80s; you claim that there is no evidence to suggest God created the Big Bang, but 80s argues that there is no evidence to suggest that God DIDN'T create the Big Bang.

All I'm saying is, you will never agree with 80s, but I don't think its legitimate to accuse him of suffering from a lack of education; both of you are blind to each other's colours, as it were.

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Oh, indeed?
What exactly does that entail? I'm not mocking you, I am genuinely interested.

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Its more of a philosophy actually. Im an atheistic satanist. We view satan as a symbol of the carnal and natural side of human nature as noted in the nine satanic statements. We are our own god, creating our own good and evil. We dont harm children. No animal sacrifices. Children and animals are important to satanist because they accept their natural side the most. You can ask me some questions if you want.


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Its more of a philosophy actually. Im an atheistic satanist. We view satan as a symbol of the carnal and natural side of human nature as noted in the nine satanic statements. We are our own god, creating our own good and evil. We dont harm children. No animal sacrifices. Children and animals are important to satanist because they accept their natural side the most. You can ask me some questions if you want.
Ravenstar, thank you for your information, how fascinating. Yes, I was aware that actual Satanism is very much different from the way the Media or Social convention has made it look (ie - animal sacrifices of the sort), but I was very curious as the philosophy. You say that you follow the nine satanic statements, what are these?

Thank you for your information.

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Ravenstar, thank you for your information, how fascinating. Yes, I was aware that actual Satanism is very much different from the way the Media or Social convention has made it look (ie - animal sacrifices of the sort), but I was very curious as the philosophy. You say that you follow the nine satanic statements, what are these?

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The Nine Satanic Statements
I Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!

II Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

III Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

IV Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!

V Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!

VI Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!

VII Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development, has become the most vicious animal of all!

VIII Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

IX Satan is the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!



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I don't think 80sU2isBest needs a better education, at all; in fact, he seems very well educated.
At the end of the day, the question here is the matter of faith, not ignorance or lack of education. 80s has faith, and you don't, its as black and white as that, and not really to do with you being more educated than 80s; you claim that there is no evidence to suggest God created the Big Bang, but 80s argues that there is no evidence to suggest that God DIDN'T create the Big Bang.
All I'm saying is, you will never agree with 80s, but I don't think its legitimate to accuse him of suffering from a lack of education; both of you are blind to each other's colours, as it were.
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Thanks a bunch, Anthony. It's nice to have people help me out like that!
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RavenStar,
Based on the nine satanic statements, is it safe to say that satanism is largely about gratifying the self?


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I follow the teachings of Meher Baba.

That's interesting martha...I did a quick yahoo search and found a lot about meher..very interesting

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Based on the nine satanic statements, is it safe to say that satanism is largely about gratifying the self?
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Yes, indeed; those were my initial thoughts as well. Forgive me if I am wrong in this interpretation, Ravenstar, but Satanism does seem to be about the indulgence of the Self in terms of sense pleasures. ie - if there is a desire, one must give into it, not repress it. Am I right in this interpetation.
Thank you for your continued information, now, I would like to find out what it is about Satanism that helps you in life.

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it is a religion of the self. A satanist will always put themselves first. Indulgence is a huge thing in Satanism. The best way to live your life is to live it.

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