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Old 02-28-2004, 11:04 AM   #16
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Yeah, if he *was* involved in the Istanbul bombings he's pretty damn lethal. Some did that.
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I do not know, but Rev. Graham controls the goverment,...
Do you mean Billy Graham?
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Old 02-28-2004, 08:02 PM   #18
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Iranian state radio report that Osama bin Laden was captured in Pakistan's border region with Afghanistan ''a long time ago.''
Does this fall into the "keep repeating a rumor to give it credence" file?
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Do you mean Billy Graham?
Either one...it is a rediculous statement.
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Old 02-28-2004, 08:21 PM   #20
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Billy Graham is not even political these days. He used to be, but hasn't believed in being publically political in eons. His son, Franklin, also a minister and evangelist, *is* friends with Bush, but that doesn't make him powerful. He has also worked with Bono on helping with AIDS in Africa.
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care to elaborate on why the leader of the largest terrorism network in the world is nothing more than a scapegoat? or do ya just wanna make the statement and leave it be?
they kill those " leaders " by packs and nothing happens , in russia , israel , middle east , africa
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I kinda agree with you WinnieThePoo. Capturing him would be immensely huge. Fantastic without a doubt. It's so unfortunate that there are countless others waiting to take his lead job and many more involved and who feel just like he does. So much more after Bin Laden. At times it seems, and this might be mostly media portrayal, that he is the prize at the end. Capturing him is the signal of success. It is a success, but not the whole battle.

Still...shouldn't underestimate the massive benefit of when he is finally captured.
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they kill those " leaders " by packs and nothing happens , in russia , israel , middle east , africa
seems to me arafat's still in power...


and angela...

exactly... is he the end all when it comes to al qaeda? no... would capturing or killing him end world terrorism? no... but it would still be a huge blow to the al qaeda network, for spiritual and financial reasons, if not neccesarily logistical ones.
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Old 02-29-2004, 09:13 AM   #24
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Phew, I'm glad that was understood lol.

I made a small typo in the above and meant to say "Capturing him is -not- the signal of success. It is a success, but not the whole battle."
I don't think it changes what I meant to say too much though. I hope.
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I predict we will be hearing more about osama in october...
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Old 02-29-2004, 10:47 AM   #26
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I'm sure bin Laden has a successor ready to go, in case something happens to him, and there will still be terrorist outfits if he's gone. Certain socio-political structures in that part of the world, and Africa, too, favor the growth of terrorism: poverty and the lack of democracy. Poverty-stricken families in Pakistan and neighboring countries will continue to send their kids to Wahhabist madrassas. The solution to the terrorist problem is a heck of alot more than capturing one person. That being said I think bin Laden has many followers and they'd be demoralized if he was captured. It wouldn't exactly be great for terrorists.
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=4468689

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistan denied Monday a report that it had struck a deal to allow U.S. troops to hunt for al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden on its territory.
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