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yes, i do think your system is failing ( exept if you have shares in prison companies )
Rono said:yes, i do think your system is failing ( exept if you have shares in prison companies )
80sU2isBest said:
Rono, the cops are putting the bad guys in jail. That's not the problem.
The problem is that the Judges let them out.
80sU2isBest said:BVS, are there bad cops? Yes. But most are good people who want to help people. I worked alongside such men and women for 7 years.
In most cities, the police are severely hindered by insufficient budgets and not enough manpower; Who wants to put their lives at risk for $40K?
Dreadsox said:
Funnier still is it is a volunteer organization. Nobody can take thier child and grandchild and "pony them up".
martha said:
But Dread, why aren't the gung-ho, pro-war, eligible Republican kids signing up in droves to fight the war they so proudly support on their car bumpers?
Dreadsox said:
I am curious...What statistical evidence is there that they are not? Does it have to be children of the republican congressman and senators?
I know of no Republicans here in my area that are gung-ho about war.
I can only speak from my experience which is that I have former students who are republicans that have enlisted.
I have friends who are republicans who have re-enlisted.
I have burried a kid from my church and school system who was a Republican.
I just do not understand how if you are a Republican you are labeled gung-ho about war. I know of nobody who would fit this characterization.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
This is a very narrow view of the problem. The problem is much more complicated than this. The whole system needs to be modified from the cops to the lawyers to the judges to the prisons etc.
Dreadsox said:
You on VACATION yet?
Tomorrow school closes here.
80sU2isBest said:
I do have a question for me. Why did you decide to say this to me rather than to Rono when he said:
"...you can keep your law system and cops."
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Because I understand his frustration with the system. He didn't put the blame on one paticular group.
80sU2isBest said:
If that's the criteria you go by, then keep a watch out for him. he has a habit of putting the blame for everything on America.
martha said:
But Dread, why aren't the gung-ho, pro-war, eligible Republican kids signing up in droves to fight the war they so proudly support on their car bumpers?
anitram said:I often wonder how easy it is to "support" a war when it is not your ass on the line or your wife being raped at home or your children being shot at. Because so many times I see, "war is a necessity" usually stated by people who have never lived war, never experienced it in their homes and their personal lives.
I really wonder what the support for the war would be if it were in your back yard, if you didn't see the sun in days, if you had nothing to eat, if you were left literally with the clothes on your back, if you lost your businesses, your livelihoods, your brothers, sisters, cousins, your schools demolished, your sleep patterns destroyed, and so on.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
I'm well aware of his posts, I'm also well aware of your sometimes passive agressive attacks.
Irvine511 said:
could it be that the maintenance of an elite class of people is predicated upon the maintenance of a permanent underclass?
LivLuvAndBootlegMusic said:
I dunno, I just feel it's a little off to say someone's opinion can't be genuine just b/c they haven't had the experience themselves.
anitram said:I often wonder how easy it is to "support" a war when it is not your ass on the line or your wife being raped at home or your children being shot at. Because so many times I see, "war is a necessity" usually stated by people who have never lived war, never experienced it in their homes and their personal lives.
between.
A_Wanderer said:Comparing people to Nazi's does a disservice to the victims of Nazism.
melon said:
You can't be "pro-life" and "pro-death" in the same breath, no matter how many ministers say otherwise.
What pisses me off about Christianity the most is that it seems to be all "yang" and no "yin." That is, if the "yang" screams "ABORTION IS WRONG!" then we'll search for hundreds of Bible passages to support it. But when the "yin" points out the hypocrisy of being "pro-life" and "pro-death (penalty)" simultaneously, no one listens and all the Bible passages that would support that are ignored. Forget that Jesus refused to stone the adulterous woman, as prescribed by Mosaic Law. Forget that Jesus said "Turn the other cheek" and "Love one another." Oh no. Jesus must be pro-death penalty, and I'm sure He cheered on His crucifixion! I mean, talk about the paradoxes of all paradoxes:
Jesus, an innocent man, gets put to death and Christians support the death penalty.
80sU2isBest said:
Have you noticed that I never throw the first punch?
anitram said:I often wonder how easy it is to "support" a war when it is not your ass on the line or your wife being raped at home or your children being shot at. Because so many times I see, "war is a necessity" usually stated by people who have never lived war, never experienced it in their homes and their personal lives.
From a civilian point of view, I can tell you it all sounds very beautiful and theoretical. But you know what, it's the civilian women and children who are never asked whether they "support" this war or feel it is a "necessity", they do not have any choice either way about their heads being blown off, for good or for evil or for anything in between.
For personal reasons, I will always side with them. They will lose every single time, such is life.
I really wonder what the support for the war would be if it were in your back yard, if you didn't see the sun in days, if you had nothing to eat, if you were left literally with the clothes on your back, if you lost your businesses, your livelihoods, your brothers, sisters, cousins, your schools demolished, your sleep patterns destroyed, and so on.
It's difficult for me to say whose view is more right here.
Bollocks, you talk shit., I don`t blaim america in general, only bible fuckers like you.80sU2isBest said:
If that's the criteria you go by, then keep a watch out for him. he has a habit of putting the blame for everything on America.
From this article about the children of congressmen who are in or could be called to serve in Iraq it seems that they are overrepresented in the millitary when compared to the general population.pax said:Yes, A, but you're avoiding my point: if this war was so necessary, so virtuous and so honorable, why are the people (or their offspring) who were in the best position to support it politically and financially somehow in the worst position to supply it with fresh humanpower?