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Old 06-12-2007, 07:40 PM   #31
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I'm glad Dallas wouldn't elect someone not running on a conservative and family value platform, gay or straight.

I have nothing against homosexuals, I don't agree with the campaign above that has to mention he's a homosexual. I believe homosexuals should be allowed civil unions, and marriage for those churches who are willing to do ceremonies.


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I'm glad, someone can see where I'm coming from. Thank you.
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Sorry, Smallville, I saw you commenting on their comment and should have cut and pasted directly from the source. Lazy on my part, apologies!

I do think that this ilk though would prefer everyone stay closeted...although they'd probably find some other way to criticize the campaign then.
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:29 PM   #35
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others seem to think that and have twisted my statements.
I was asking a question based on what I interpreted from your phrasing of that statment. You explained yourself. It's over. Drop it. Please.
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(Reuters)Gay candidate loses Dallas mayoral election

Sat Jun 16, 11:27 PM ET

An openly gay candidate lost his bid on Saturday to become mayor of Dallas in a race that attracted wide attention because of his sexual orientation.

Councilman Ed Oakley lost to businessman Tom Leppert, who took 58 percent of the vote to Oakley's 42 percent, according to official returns. Oakley had the endorsement of the Democratic Party, while Leppert ran a nonpartisan campaign.

A victory by Oakley would have made him the first openly gay mayor of a major U.S. city, according to the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, a Washington-based gay rights group.

Neither candidate made an issue of Oakley's sexual orientation, although some outside groups did.

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Flaunting your sexuality is completely unimportant in regards to your actual ability to run a city. Why use it to campaign? Because you're a crappy politician who needs a platform? Damn. I don't care if he's gay, I just want him to govern properly. Same with Mitt Romney...I don't care if his religion is insane, I just want him to be the best presidential candidate possible. Going to great lengths to flaunt your religion and/or sexuality will just skewer the votes. I don't care what you are...I want to know what you can do for us!
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Flaunting your sexuality is completely unimportant in regards to your actual ability to run a city. Why use it to campaign? Because you're a crappy politician who needs a platform? Damn. I don't care if he's gay, I just want him to govern properly. Same with Mitt Romney...I don't care if his religion is insane, I just want him to be the best presidential candidate possible. Going to great lengths to flaunt your religion and/or sexuality will just skewer the votes. I don't care what you are...I want to know what you can do for us!


erm, did you pay attention to the articles?

he never made an issue about it; it was right-wing pressure groups who used sexuality -- heterosexuality -- as a reason to vote for someone.

and i love how gay people get accused of "flaunting" their seuxality when they choose to not live inside a closet. the whole phrase "openly gay" reeks of heterosexism. how many of you are "openly straight"?
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Flaunting your sexuality is completely unimportant in regards to your actual ability to run a city. Why use it to campaign? Because you're a crappy politician who needs a platform? Damn. I don't care if he's gay, I just want him to govern properly. Same with Mitt Romney...I don't care if his religion is insane, I just want him to be the best presidential candidate possible. Going to great lengths to flaunt your religion and/or sexuality will just skewer the votes. I don't care what you are...I want to know what you can do for us!
Try reading it does wonders.
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erm, did you pay attention to the articles?

he never made an issue about it; it was right-wing pressure groups who used sexuality -- heterosexuality -- as a reason to vote for someone.

and i love how gay people get accused of "flaunting" their seuxality when they choose to not live inside a closet. the whole phrase "openly gay" reeks of heterosexism. how many of you are "openly straight"?
Ouch, sorry, I just read the part of the article in the thread. My point still stands, but I suppose it doesn't fit this discussion particularly well.

Now, let me address the second half of your post:

When did I once say that Oakley was ever openly gay? My proposition was merely hypothetical. Irvine, you get too bent out of shape over these things. Believe it or not, there is such a thing as being openly (RE: irritatingly) gay, and to point that out is not homophobic because, guess what, it's pretty damn annoying when heterosexual men choose to be overly masculine (RE: macho) to prove their lack of gayness. Also, quite pathetic. It goes both ways.
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What exactly constitutes "irritatingly gay"? And why is that related to being openly gay? I can find many things irritating about human beings, and they never really have anything to do with their sexual orientation. Most of the time I have no idea what that is anyway.

Being openly gay to me means just saying you are gay and being as open as you feel comfortable about your personal life-no different than a straight person chooses to be more private or less private about theirs.
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Irritatingly gay folks = heterophobics. Those incredibly stuck up types, or, more commonly, those who are constantly assuming you're gay bashing if you say anything remotely negative about them personally. (Not related to their sexuality) It's like they use being homosexual as a handicap or something. That's really damn annoying, and I've come across my share of them.
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Uh, ok
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Assholes are assholes, but there's no such thing as irritatingly gay.

Are you irritatingly straight?
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