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Old 09-25-2013, 03:38 PM   #121
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apparently the pain we might cause to gun owners is more important than the pain suffered by people who lose a family member to gun violence.
Which is why moments like these make me want to hang the American flag outside my window - upside down.
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Old 09-26-2013, 02:14 AM   #122
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:56 PM   #123
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60 Minutes ran a story on the state of mental illness treatment in this country. It focused mostly on schizophrenics, because Alexis apparently was one.

The segment talked about how schizophrenia can trigger out of nowhere. One year, a 20 year old can be fine, the next year they're schizophrenic. Some are reluctant to take medication either because they see nothing wrong with themselves or the meds make them feel terrible.

As for treatment, the reason why so many severely mentally ill people are wandering the streets is because the laws on treating them are so lax. A judge has to decide if you are truly a danger to yourself or others, and by then someone could be almost lost to their illness. There is very little monitoring of psychotics. The old system housed them in asylums that only abused and dehumanized them. The reforms didn't seem to think ahead in dealing with schizophrenics. As a result, many end up homeless or in prison. One prison guard called prisons the new insane asylums.

So there you go. Some of you may already be aware of this, but I wanted to share it. Clearly there needs to be more resources for the mentally ill, especially the more severe ones. Whatever you stand on gun control, you can't deny we need to mental health reform in this country.
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Not a "mass" shooting. But another gun violence at school.

But this is just what we should accept as life in America. Gun rights are too important to have any meaningful regulations that might hep avoid these situations.
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This guy would have never dared bring a gun to school if everyone else had been bringing a gun to school.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:38 PM   #126
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Shooting at LAX, reports of multiple injuries, flights have been grounded.
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Single shooter armed with an assault rifle opened fire at the security checkpoint then moved through Terminal 3. Incoming flights are still landing, but outgoing flights are not.
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:36 PM   #128
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I asked this a while back in the Islam thread, thought a little more sincerely. Not sure I ever got an answer
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I'm not sure that question will go over well in this forum.
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There should be no questions that don't go over well.
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Are you a white gun owner? You're more likely to be a racist than if you weren't packing heat.

That's what researchers found in a study published by the journal Plos One, which linked racial prejudice to firearm ownership in America.

A research team led by Dr. Kerry O’Brien, a professor of behavioral studies at Australia's Monash University, examined attitudes about gun control and race using data from the American National Election Study, a survey conducted before and after presidential elections.

The researchers found that "for each 1 point increase in symbolic racism there was a 50% increase in the odds of having a gun at home," as well as "a 28% increase in support for permits to carry concealed handguns."

To measure levels of prejudice, the team asked survey participants questions that measured both symbolic racism, defined as "a belief structure underpinned by both anti-black affect and traditional values," and implicit racial attitudes, which are more subtle associations about people of different races. For example, in the symbolic racism section, participants were asked, "“How well does the word ‘violent’ describe most blacks?” on a scale of 1 to 5.

Participants were also shown statements from the Symbolic Racism Scale, such as "Generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class," and asked to what extent they agreed.

The study noted that whites are twice as likely to own guns as blacks, and oppose gun control to a far greater extent. Unsurprisingly, "stronger Republican identification, being from a southern state and anti-government sentiment were associated with opposition to gun-control policies," though not with having a gun in the home.

Gun Ownership And Racist Attitudes Are Linked, Study Finds


unsurprising.
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:49 PM   #132
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I'm sure you could also link the ownership of a mullet to racism. Doesn't say much in the long run though
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Man Attacked in Driveway; Wagon & Guns Stolen | NBC 10 Philadelphia

Crazy to think that this guy's guns didn't help him. Just so strange.
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I asked this a while back in the Islam thread, thought a little more sincerely. Not sure I ever got an answer
I think we've hit rock bottom. When there is no rational basis for depriving millions of people of their rights based on the bad acts of a few (instead of focusing on the few), we get the now standard dirty trick: BECAUSE RACISM.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:45 PM   #135
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I think you misunderstood my point.

And no matter what point you thought I was trying to make, where are you getting racism from???
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